All Blacks 2025
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2025: @sparky said in All Blacks 2025: So with Reiko Ioane back in form, who misses out in the selection for the ABs in midfield? Proctor ALB. 
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025: I'd take Lam over Tavatavanawai. I think Lams game is better suited to test rugby. Both will probably miss out to Havili and Ennor. Lam is bigger and plays arguably in a more test-like Super team but with less turnovers. 
 How do/could they compare as a backup wing?
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I don't think it is scandalous to consider Savea and Sititi are viewed as ahead of Sotutu at 8 in AB coaches' eyes (and of course they play 7 and 6 as well) but he seems pretty useful to the Blues to me, not sure he has really been playing as badly as some here suggested (I haven't seen today's game). 
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Nobody here picking Beauden? Or more accurately, picking the coaches to pick BB? 
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025: Nobody here picking Beauden? Or more accurately, picking the coaches to pick BB? Huh? Everybody knows he's a certainty. 
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025: @booboo said in All Blacks 2025: @sparky said in All Blacks 2025: So with Reiko Ioane back in form, who misses out in the selection for the ABs in midfield? Proctor ALB. Who's your backup 12? Havili or Lam? 
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025: @Bones said in All Blacks 2025: @booboo said in All Blacks 2025: @sparky said in All Blacks 2025: So with Reiko Ioane back in form, who misses out in the selection for the ABs in midfield? Proctor ALB. Who's your backup 12? Havili or Lam? I thought ALB is injured? 
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025: @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025: @Bones said in All Blacks 2025: @booboo said in All Blacks 2025: @sparky said in All Blacks 2025: So with Reiko Ioane back in form, who misses out in the selection for the ABs in midfield? Proctor ALB. Who's your backup 12? Havili or Lam? I thought ALB is injured? My bad. Didn't know it was season-ending. 
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025: @chchfanatic Savea, Sititi, Lakai, Parker, Jacobson Papalii, Blackadder to be selected. Kirifi just misses out. Plenty of time for Blackadder to get injured between now and AB team naming. 
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025: I don't think it is scandalous to consider Savea and Sititi are viewed as ahead of Sotutu at 8 in AB coaches' eyes (and of course they play 7 and 6 as well) but he seems pretty useful to the Blues to me, not sure he has really been playing as badly as some here suggested (I haven't seen today's game). I thought Sotutu had a fine game today. Showed lovely hands and some good defensive work too 
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025: @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025: @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025: Jacobsen are certainties. I'm sure he will be picked but there's no way Jacobson should be a certainty I really can see him being the starting 6 and stated the reasons earlier in this thread. What reasons? He's probably the 4th best 6 at the Chiefs behind Finau, Sititi and Parker 
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025: Nobody here picking Beauden? Or more accurately, picking the coaches to pick BB? You obviously haven't read any Marc Hinton article.  
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@KiwiMurph being at the game last night and watching from a very elevated position Sotutu Always attracts a lot of defenders 
 Has a great ability to throw a a late pass before contact or just take contact and get gainlineI watched both the 2 number 8s closely last night Gleeson got through a ton of work with many carries without getting gainline 
 Looked busy but far less impactful
 Hoskins showed some great touches last night
 Stats imo dont always tell a full story but i would be curious to compare both as reference point
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025: @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025: Nobody here picking Beauden? Or more accurately, picking the coaches to pick BB? You obviously haven't read any Marc Hinton article.  I didn't realize Hinton was a poster here! 
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025: David Havili and Reiko Ioane have these last few games to show what they can do. Somebody in Blue seems to be reading your posts. 
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025: @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025: @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025: @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025: Jacobsen are certainties. I'm sure he will be picked but there's no way Jacobson should be a certainty I really can see him being the starting 6 and stated the reasons earlier in this thread. What reasons? He's probably the 4th best 6 at the Chiefs behind Finau, Sititi and Parker Razor and co like a guy that will tackle heaps, clean a lot, and carry close to the ruck, like the previous crew which included Ryan and how they always had North Island fern favourite Shannon Frizzell. Luke Jacobsen fills that role best I feel (not saying I agree with it, but it's they way I think they'll go). 






