All Blacks 2025
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina I:
Short sighted nonsense that may help Robertson's AB coaching record in the short term, but would go a long way towards killing the game here in the medium to long term.
Well his stated goal is to win a RWC with two sides. Poor medium/long term thinking helps his goal
It seems he's mistakenly extrapolated his experience in Super Rugby to Test rugby.
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Razor has his Quarterback. All is well in the All Blacks for the next World Cup.
I’ve been away for awhile. I missed who won the super rugby title. -
In all seriousness, it’s what razor has wanted. To get his main man back. You live and die by the sword I guess. Could be the biggest mistake of his career.
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@pakman We never really replaced Mike Byrne who worked with the ABs between 2005 and 2015. There much be someone else from an AFl background willing to work with the ABs, but 20 years' younger than Mick Byrne.
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A refreshingly honest and clear. interview from the always impressive Dalton Papalii.
Disappointing not to see him in the RC squad as I think he has a hell of a lot to offer the All Blacks. Hopefully, he'll be back for the EOYT and as the World Cup approaches.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
A refreshingly honest and clear. interview from the always impressive Dalton Papalii.
Disappointing not to see him in the RC squad as I think he has a hell of a lot to offer the All Blacks. Hopefully, he'll be back for the EOYT and as the World Cup approaches.
Your assessment of Kirifi’s performance in Hamilton now makes so much more sense.
Not sure what’s so disappointing, Dalton has had plenty of opportunities and never nailed down a position in the ABs. The players in the ABs atm deserve to be there and have forced him out because they’ve simply played better than him this year.
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@Canes4life that's not really true, Dalton sat behind McCaw and Cane, the AB captains, and post Cane's retirement he's had scant little chances. He was strong for the Blues this year and is well suited to test footy, it beggars belief he wouldn't even be in the squad.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life that's not really true, Dalton sat behind McCaw and Cane, the AB captains, and post Cane's retirement he's had scant little chances. He was strong for the Blues this year and is well suited to test footy, it beggars belief he wouldn't even be in the squad.
Lol he never sat behind McCaw and he’s had 36 appearances for the ABs, plenty of time to push for a starting jersey. If he was so suited to test rugby he would still be in the squad, obviously lacks a few ingredients in his game that the coaches are after. For me he never really dominated at test level, a bit like Blackadder. No point selecting the same blokes and expecting different results.
There are a lot of Dalton fans on this Fern which is fine because on form he’s good but you can’t argue against the other guys who have been selected, they’ve played better this year.
Maybe the best thing for him is to fight his way back into the ABs and earn that jersey again. Kudos to him if he does.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
A refreshingly honest and clear. interview from the always impressive Dalton Papalii.
Disappointing not to see him in the RC squad as I think he has a hell of a lot to offer the All Blacks. Hopefully, he'll be back for the EOYT and as the World Cup approaches.
Your assessment of Kirifi’s performance in Hamilton now makes so much more sense.
Not sure what’s so disappointing, Dalton has had plenty of opportunities and never nailed down a position in the ABs. The players in the ABs atm deserve to be there and have forced him out because they’ve simply played better than him this year.
Utter BS.
He's been over very good to excellent for th ABs. The problem was the overall fetish of Sam Cane who led us through the worst period of All Black results in the professional era. Cane got given some pity reprieve last year and the result is overall average results for the ABs.
Ryan and Robertson obviously have some issues with Blues players. There are far more Canes and Chiefs players than Blues players despite both teams failing to deliver during the business end of the tournament.
The Canes and Chiefs look good during the regular the season but when the going gets tough they are chokers. The amount of Chiefs loose forwards in the ABs squad is ridiculous.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
A refreshingly honest and clear. interview from the always impressive Dalton Papalii.
Disappointing not to see him in the RC squad as I think he has a hell of a lot to offer the All Blacks. Hopefully, he'll be back for the EOYT and as the World Cup approaches.
Your assessment of Kirifi’s performance in Hamilton now makes so much more sense.
Not sure what’s so disappointing, Dalton has had plenty of opportunities and never nailed down a position in the ABs. The players in the ABs atm deserve to be there and have forced him out because they’ve simply played better than him this year.
Utter BS.
He's been over very good to excellent for th ABs. The problem was the overall fetish of Sam Cane who led us through the worst period of All Black results in the professional era. Cane got given some pity reprieve last year and the result is overall average results for the ABs.
Ryan and Robertson obviously have some issues with Blues players. There are far more Canes and Chiefs players than Blues players despite both teams failing to deliver during the business end of the tournament.
If he was so excellent he would still be in the squad. Something isn’t stacking up.
My point anyway is there have been better players than him this year that are more deserving, especially at 7 so rightfully or wrongfully in the eyes of Dalton supporters, the coaches have gone down a different path.
By the way I don’t dislike Dalton and I hope he hits the heights that many think he can on here, but maybe his 6.5 style of play isn’t what the AB coaches are looking for.
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I never rated cane
Very surprised they persisted with him as much as they did, thought that NZ must have better prospects at 7
When you spend so much time in an environment of excellence (the AB setup); you'd have to be a complete plonker not to improve your game out of sight
Which is what Cane did; he has to have maxed out his potential
But still, hard to believe such a limited player initially, played over 100 times for NZ
Mils muliaina was also a bit like that, but his starting point was a bit higher than Cane'sBut some guys are glue guys; you always need them
it's very hard to tell who they are, unless you are actually in the squadAssuming no one on this site has been in an AB squad; we'd all have been way better players if we had
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I don't think the ABs are too far off being a pretty decent team. We are missing a few pieces to make us that decent team, and those pieces seem a fair way off unfortunately.
The major problem areas for me are 10 and 13. At 13, we really need Proctor to step up, because apart from going back to RI, there are bugger all options.
Stating the obvious here, but 10 is even worse, and the options behind those we have in the squad now are not ready. I have my doubts if they will ever be ready, and it may well be a case of treading water and hoping someone from the next generation steps up.
To a lesser degree I think the loosies are still a problem, but I don't think they are what is holding us back. Same goes with the wings.
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There's nothing wrong with winning with forward-orientated or, even 10-man Rugby, as long as you keep winning.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
There's nothing wrong with winning with forward-orientated or, even 10-man Rugby, as long as you keep winning.
Ironically, Plummer would have been the ideal 10 if we were trying to do that. BB is a spent force, who is a 10 in a 15s body. The chip kick stuff he used to get away with has been a bust for some time now. I remember a moment during Argie 1, where he got the ball, changed direction of attack and chipped and chased. Ball went into touch (much to Nisbo's delight), but he had just surrendered decent attacking ball just outside their 25, letting the Argies off the hook. What I wouldn't give for a stable 10 who can make sound decisions and allow his midfield time and space to work.
Razor seems obsessed to play a certain way, I'm not sure it is the best way for us to consistently win test matches because we give the opposition so many chances to hurt us. A better opposition would have made us pay on Sunday
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i have said on here a few times that i thought that being the AB coach was the world' shittest job. I have come to realise it is far easier than i thought. If the great unwashed can respond to the viewers MoTM poll and have 34% of them think Ardie Savea was the AB man of the match in that test, then it's clear that most of the rugby public n NZ is retarded.
Just pick the biggest names and you are sweet, the rest doesn't matter.
