All Blacks 2025
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So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.
How the fuck would that work Caleb Tangitau could have played on the right wing Reiko at centre doesn't effect if he plays or not., and Clarke always plays left wing Tangitau always a right wing.Dumb post you are shooting from the hip with no knowledge.
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.
The original Auckland side was a copy and paste from last weekend. They had injuries and released the real side today. The ABs are not the only changes
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@No-Quarter he did say they had worked hard on it, but one assumes whatever they are doing, aint up to it.
The only footage I've seen of them practising is jumping above someone wearing a mattress on their back or someone else waving some pool noodles in their face.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:
Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.
It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.
All Blacks’ defence coach talks record-setting defensive struggles
The All Blacks have claimed yet more unwanted history with their 43-10 defeat to the Springboks, but don't slot the record books back onto the shelf just yet, because more looks to be on the way.
That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.
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@Chris The reason I asked was because I had no knowledge of why he was left out. Just a question bro no need to get too salty about it.
Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious. -
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@upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:
Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious.
Yep I totally agree with that.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:
Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.
It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.
All Blacks’ defence coach talks record-setting defensive struggles
The All Blacks have claimed yet more unwanted history with their 43-10 defeat to the Springboks, but don't slot the record books back onto the shelf just yet, because more looks to be on the way.
That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.
Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.
By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:
Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.
It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.
All Blacks’ defence coach talks record-setting defensive struggles
The All Blacks have claimed yet more unwanted history with their 43-10 defeat to the Springboks, but don't slot the record books back onto the shelf just yet, because more looks to be on the way.
That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.
Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.
By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.
Jesus fucking wept. At this point I'd take Jamie Joseph regardless of results just to hear someone use a normal fucking sentence that makes sense.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.
There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.
Just a bunch of guys who seemingly do similar things sort of, without clear defined roles. Typical middle management strategy
That’s not true.
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Im still fucking seething.
Cant remember the name of the poster who said this originally so apologies...
But our nadir coincided with when the sport ceased to be a spectacle.
He was bang on the money.
The stop start, skullduggery infused, sport we have now, doesnt suit us.
If it did we would be picking Ben Tameifuna and Karl Tu'inukuafe.
You need a gun out half and 14 other guttersnipes.
All this talk of the Boks playing Tony ball etc....nonsense. It will be 8 man rugby, whinging to the refs, physios on the field and moving the scoreboard in increments of 3 come 2027.
The refs freeze, the players freeze.
It was ever thus.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.
There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.
they must be relying on one of the assistants I mentioned as a backs skills coach.
Yes, you're right.
All the training photos & video clips show Jason Holland is the back's skills coach, you can see him managing the high-ball sessions and waving pool noodles in the player's faces.
Why there isn't being more criticism directed Holland's way by Canes supporters on here (@Canes4life @canefan, etc.) given the years of mediocrity they endured under his watch beats me.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:
Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.
It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.
All Blacks’ defence coach talks record-setting defensive struggles
The All Blacks have claimed yet more unwanted history with their 43-10 defeat to the Springboks, but don't slot the record books back onto the shelf just yet, because more looks to be on the way.
That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.
Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.
By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.
Jesus fucking wept. At this point I'd take Jamie Joseph regardless of results just to hear someone use a normal fucking sentence that makes sense.
The new system’s goal is to win the ball back, knowing the All Blacks are at their most dangerous with turnover ball in unstructured play. The coach said that emphasis is “massive”, not just in the breakdown, but in all areas of the game.
Jesus. We're living in the 2000's again (or trying to). Not convinced this works - our try at the weekend was superb, but it was not a quick strike off turnover ball
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.
There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.
they must be relying on one of the assistants I mentioned as a backs skills coach.
Yes, you're right.
All the training photos & video clips show Jason Holland is the back's skills coach, you can see him managing the high-ball sessions and waving pool noodles in the player's faces.
Why there isn't being more criticism directed Holland's way by Canes supporters on here (@Canes4life @canefan, etc.) given the years of mediocrity they endured under his watch beats me.
You probably missed it mate, I mentioned this in the All Blacks vs Springbok 2 thread: My issue here is that the coaching simply isn't good enough, especially in the backs. Holland and Ellison are both out of their depth and my question is how much longer can we afford to put up with it?
I've felt Holland has been out of his depth ever since he automatically got the head coaching gig at the Canes, was even more baffled when Razor wanted him on his team. Would love to see him go... far away back to Ireland for all I care.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I've felt Holland has been out of his depth ever since he automatically got the head coaching gig at the Canes, was even more baffled when Razor wanted him on his team.
Holland was assistant coach to Canterbury at the same time as Razor. Razor seems to be a relationship guy - he trusts people he has known for some time. It's great, but only if they are actually really good coaches.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I've felt Holland has been out of his depth ever since he automatically got the head coaching gig at the Canes, was even more baffled when Razor wanted him on his team.
Holland was assistant coach to Canterbury at the same time as Razor. Razor seems to be a relationship guy - he trusts people he has known for some time. It's great, but only if they are actually really good coaches.
Which Holland has proven he’s not.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I've felt Holland has been out of his depth ever since he automatically got the head coaching gig at the Canes, was even more baffled when Razor wanted him on his team.
Holland was assistant coach to Canterbury at the same time as Razor. Razor seems to be a relationship guy - he trusts people he has known for some time. It's great, but only if they are actually really good coaches.
Which Holland has proven he’s not.
And the jury is out on Tamati Ellison and Scott Hansen.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I've felt Holland has been out of his depth ever since he automatically got the head coaching gig at the Canes, was even more baffled when Razor wanted him on his team.
Holland was assistant coach to Canterbury at the same time as Razor. Razor seems to be a relationship guy - he trusts people he has known for some time. It's great, but only if they are actually really good coaches.
Which Holland has proven he’s not.
And the jury is out on Tamati Ellison and Scott Hansen.
That's a very generous take
I would say the jury is in and they aren't up to it.
