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  • ChrisC Away
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean Are those stats only for games when those guys played in the midfield - or are they season stats for guys who sometimes played in other positions?

    Lams form has also fallen off a cliff in NPC he has been poor.

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous

    I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.

    Razor will be a genius

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

    Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
    Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

    Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

    Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
    Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

    I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.

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    @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous

    I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.

    Razor will be a genius

    sadism runs strong with this one

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

    Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
    Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

    Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

    Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
    Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

    I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.

    That is fine mate I understand what you are saying

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    @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

    Forgive is such a strong word…..

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    On this day in 2003, Stirling Mortlock ran it in from distance in the Rugby World Cup semi-final #RWC2003.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

    Forgive is such a strong word…..

    158K views · 1.9K reactions | On this day in 2003, Stirling Mortlock...

    158K views · 1.9K reactions | On this day in 2003, Stirling Mortlock...

    On this day in 2003, Stirling Mortlock ran it in from distance in the Rugby World Cup semi-final #RWC2003.

    Mortlock. Hell of a player. Especially against NZ.

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    @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    I really want to see some angry ABs out there this week.

    Within reason. I don't want to see more cards.

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    @ACT-Crusader I did say briefly...

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    Those wanting to see more of LSL have got their wish.

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    Lukhan Salakaia-Loto has been given the job of Eden Park enforcer after being named to make his first start for the Wallabies this year against the All Blacks on Saturday.

    The call-up for the big Queensland lock came as Wallabies coach Joe Schmidt also turned to a new starting partnership in the halves for the opening Bledisloe Cup clash, with Tate McDermott and James O’Connor trusted to run the show for Australia at the intimidating Auckland venue.

    From the Sydney Morning Herald just now

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

    Forgive is such a strong word…..

    158K views · 1.9K reactions | On this day in 2003, Stirling Mortlock...

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    On this day in 2003, Stirling Mortlock ran it in from distance in the Rugby World Cup semi-final #RWC2003.

    Mils.
    Fucking.
    Scored.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    BB will probably look ok against a passive Wallaby defence, as will a few others. This test will paper over the cracks and will tell us very little.

    Roigard back is a huge boost for this side. I reckon he should just skip Beauden altogether when we attack.

    the Hurricanes site says he is a 9/10 but he has not played 10 at a high level has he?

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    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

    He came on late out of position and replaced a guy who missed two tackles in one movement that led to the Boks set play and try that set them on their run.

    It wasn't a good night at the office, but all of the replacements who came on at that time were average, as were the majority of the rest of the other players in that time.

    So not sure how he is any luckier than any other player.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

    He came on late out of position and replaced a guy who missed two tackles in one movement that led to the Boks set play and try that set them on their run.

    It wasn't a good night at the office, but all of the replacements who came on at that time were average, as were the majority of the rest of the other players in that time.

    So not sure how he is any luckier than any other player.

    Well, he's unlucky that there is an undroppable Barrett in the position he is best suited to.

    Not quite sure how a guy who broke the line and scored a terrific individual try in the previous Springbok match is "lucky" to be there.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

    Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

    Dominant Carry % (desc)
    59.3 AJ Lam
    56.8 Sam Gilbert
    53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
    53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
    51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
    48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

    Gainline %
    80.0 AJ Lam
    76.7 Xavi Taele
    75.7 Riley Higgins
    75.0 Julian Savea
    67.8 Sam Gilbert
    64.2 Quinn Tupaea

    Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
    82.1% Julian Savea
    75.3% AJ Lam
    71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
    70.6% Levi Aumua
    67.0% Quinn Tupaea
    65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

    Tackle Evasion %
    43.2 Billy Proctor
    37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
    34.3 AJ Lam
    32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
    31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
    30.5 David Havili

    Tackle Success
    93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
    90.0% Braydon Ennor
    88.7% Jordie Barrett
    88.7% Xavi Taele
    88.5% Quinn Tupaea
    87.9% AJ Lam

    Dominant Tackle %
    17.5 Braydon Ennor
    14.9 Billy Proctor
    9.5 AJ Lam
    8.6 Gideon Wrampling
    8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
    8.3 Sam Gilbert

    Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

    I find stats odd when Potbelly can commit so many tacklers, evade so many tacklers....yet is far from dominant and is mostly behind the gainline?

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    @restofit said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    Is Lakai selection more of a reaction to our implosion in the final 20 when the bench guys came on or has he just not been 100% fit until now?

    I just don't understand why Kirifi was getting picked over him for so long when Lakai's ceiling is higher, he's 22 vs Kirifi 28 and he's 110kg vs Kirifi 103kg.

    I’ve been saying this since Lakai became available. He’s just so much more suited to test rugby.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

    Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
    Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

    Defence optional midfields?

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
    Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

    I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

    In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

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