All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
The Team I'd select for Perth
- Lakai
- Sititi
Tell me you haven't been paying attention without saying you haven't been paying attention.
- Tupaea
- J. Barrett
Why move Jordie if the problem of his form is solved by replacing his brother at 10?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks 2025:
This team is mediocre, relying on its stars, and should have easily put away a Wallaby outfit missing several first choice players in Valetini, Skelton, Lolesio, Wright, and Kellaway. Thank heavens for Roigard last night, though what are the odds on the keystone cops in the coaching panel coaching him out of form as well?
If only Noah was playing, we would’ve won by plenty more.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )4% ? thank goodness.
Here I was thinking he was inexperienced at 13.
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@antipodean Papalii would be my first choice 7, but he's not with the squad.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ExiledHalfback said in All Blacks 2025:
Just rewatched the game. The ABs look so rigid. They just don't look comfortable, at least 2 times there's a clear overlap with the line begging but the outside man is ignored. There's no confidence to make the pass. God knows how you fix that.
I saw that too. Was it Roigard who went for the line instead of passing on one ocassion?
Well he did score on one occasion doing that...
Oh not a criticism. He was arguably the best player
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
think small countries can compete with bigger countries in sport - such as how Jamaica is consistently the biggest rival to the US in sprinting despite having a population of only 3 million.
Jamaica: probably drugs
Definitely drugs.
Can Nz get them for their outside backs then
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )This post is like fingers on the blackboard to me. American spelling of centre, calling 2nd 5 inside centre, and calling 1st 5 flyhalf.
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@nostrildamus
yeah
1st ⅝, and 2nd ⅝
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )This post is like fingers on the blackboard to me. American spelling of centre, calling 2nd 5 inside centre, and calling 1st 5 flyhalf.
And who says ‘winger’. It’s 3/4
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Having just rewatched the first half you see just how much that defence is an issue.
1-25 minutes ABs completely dominant, playing great rugby, Australia barely touch the ball, all the rugby played in their half. Score 20-3.
25 - 40 minutes - Aussie on top. The very first time Australia have a sustained attack in the ABs 22 they score. Genuinely it's their very first real attack in the whole game. They score a second try again with the AB defence being weak - shit, non existent tackling.
Australia were able to build a score in the first half comparable to the ABs with just 15:mins worth of attack (compared to 25) because the AB defence was porous. The Aussies actually made the ABs earn their tries - hence why two of their tries were in the corner. Aussie tries were punched over in the middle
Any type of credible defence and the ABs take a 10+ point lead into halftime.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ExiledHalfback said in All Blacks 2025:
Just rewatched the game. The ABs look so rigid. They just don't look comfortable, at least 2 times there's a clear overlap with the line begging but the outside man is ignored. There's no confidence to make the pass. God knows how you fix that.
I saw that too. Was it Roigard who went for the line instead of passing on one ocassion?
The 2 I noted were Vai'i and Tupea I believe. There may have been more.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )This post is like fingers on the blackboard to me. American spelling of centre, calling 2nd 5 inside centre, and calling 1st 5 flyhalf.
And who says ‘winger’. It’s 3/4
Wing 3/4 and centre 3/4. Need to differentiate.
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@stodders and yet we kick so much possession away.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )This post is like fingers on the blackboard to me. American spelling of centre, calling 2nd 5 inside centre, and calling 1st 5 flyhalf.
It irks me when South Africans say "Flank" instead of "Flanker".
Oh, and "eighthman"
As we get older I find it's the little things that really grate.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Has he ever even played there ?
Where hasn't he played (in the backline?)
Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 50% )
Center : 79 times ( Inside Centre 39%, Outside Centre 4% )
Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 5%, Left Wing 1% )
Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )This post is like fingers on the blackboard to me. American spelling of centre, calling 2nd 5 inside centre, and calling 1st 5 flyhalf.
It irks me when South Africans say "Flank" instead of "Flanker".
Oh, and "eighthman"
As we get older I find it's the little things that really grate.
Yes to all three points!
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Are we big enough in the forwards? Our front row is but the Aussies had bigger men running at us from 4-8 and were bending the line on most occasions. Our obsession with mobility and speed in NZ rugby has resulted in us not producing large forwards. I look at the NPC and our loosies are all virtually the same size, sitting around the 110kg mark and our locks aren't massive. We saw what a bigger body like Patty T could do when he came on, and that's where the game is heading now - power and size.
A decade ago, we could rely on our players running the opposition off their feet and our pack, while not being the largest, were always the quickest and most skilled, which gave us an advantage. Now, the opposition is as skilled, as fit and they generally have bigger men than us, while the introduction of impact players means that they will always have fresh forwards to close the game out.
It's not a question of us not being able to produce big guys. We do have the largest PI population in the world so size shouldn't be an issue, it's just that we tend to pick guys to suit the traditional NZ speed game which has always favoured slightly smaller men. Guys like Skelton, LSL, Meafou, the Vunipola brothers, Antonio etc are all NZ born, so we certainly can produce bigger athletes. We just need to start identifying them and bringing them through.
but if they don't have a small mobile player attitude they will be excluded for the non playing myth Luke Jacobson