Boxing Thread
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Joseph Parker is down to number 4 in Ring Magazine's Heavyweight rankings. I'd like to see him fight Daniel Dubois next.
https://twitter.com/ringmagazine/status/1982885154826698840?s=46
@sparky said in Boxing Thread:
Joseph Parker is down to number 4 in Ring Magazine's Heavyweight rankings. I'd like to see him fight Daniel Dubois next.
https://twitter.com/ringmagazine/status/1982885154826698840?s=46
I dunno. As I said a few years back I reckon he should think about giving it up for good. @kiwiinmelb sums it up pretty well.
Not sure the "risk/reward" is in his favour and Dubois is another with a big right hand.
Interesting to me that Joe Joyce isn't on that list, He looked pretty unstoppable beating Parker like he did just three years ago but two losses to Zhang put paid to his hopes.
Every fighter has their problem opponent. I feel Dubois might be another for Parker.
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He said straight after the fight he is fighting on , said he’s still in love with the sport and the lifestyle.
I suspect he loves the money more than he lets on
Agree with the comments on frank warren , think he has too many heavyweights in his stable and Joe is clearly down the pecking order of who his priorities lie with.
Kabayal is another fighter who can’t get a fight right now , he could be another option, although another difficult one .
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Yeah na to Kabayel he deserves the Uysk fight more than Wardley and probably is the best chance to trouble Uysk with his body attack.
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah na to Kabayel he deserves the Uysk fight more than Wardley and probably is the best chance to trouble Uysk with his body attack.
Kabayel is interesting, German but of Kurdish heritage, with an impressive reach.
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@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah na to Kabayel he deserves the Uysk fight more than Wardley and probably is the best chance to trouble Uysk with his body attack.
Kabayel is interesting, German but of Kurdish heritage, with an impressive reach.
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah na to Kabayel he deserves the Uysk fight more than Wardley and probably is the best chance to trouble Uysk with his body attack.
Kabayel is interesting, German but of Kurdish heritage, with an impressive reach.
Knocked out Zilei Zhang at the start of the year. No one has been able to do that so obviously has some power and an impressive record thus far.
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@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah na to Kabayel he deserves the Uysk fight more than Wardley and probably is the best chance to trouble Uysk with his body attack.
Kabayel is interesting, German but of Kurdish heritage, with an impressive reach.
Knocked out Zilei Zhang at the start of the year. No one has been able to do that so obviously has some power and an impressive record thus far.
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah na to Kabayel he deserves the Uysk fight more than Wardley and probably is the best chance to trouble Uysk with his body attack.
Kabayel is interesting, German but of Kurdish heritage, with an impressive reach.
Knocked out Zilei Zhang at the start of the year. No one has been able to do that so obviously has some power and an impressive record thus far.
yeah that is impressive, Zhang seemed very punch-resistant but is father time and bouts catching up with him?
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He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
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He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
Ive just seen he has a fight scheduled for jan 10th in Germany without an opponent yet , and he is calling out Dubois .
I’m not sure Dubois has a new trainer yet , he sacked Don Charles after the usyk fight .
I didn’t see when it happened but kabayal is now also signed with frank Warren.
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Signing with Frank Warren is a career crusher for a fighter if they are not from UK...
Uk boxing is dominated in the promoter ranks by Warren and Hearn...then trailing behind Shalom,
Non UK fighters really need better- fairer representation as its stalling/ruining careers -
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
Ive just seen he has a fight scheduled for jan 10th in Germany without an opponent yet , and he is calling out Dubois .
I’m not sure Dubois has a new trainer yet , he sacked Don Charles after the usyk fight .
I didn’t see when it happened but kabayal is now also signed with frank Warren.
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
Ive just seen he has a fight scheduled for jan 10th in Germany without an opponent yet , and he is calling out Dubois .
I’m not sure Dubois has a new trainer yet , he sacked Don Charles after the usyk fight .
I didn’t see when it happened but kabayal is now also signed with frank Warren.
Yeah Kabayel was meant to face Nelson Hysa which would have been a waste of time, but that fell through apparently. It won't be anyone special if it's in Germany put it this way.
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Signing with Frank Warren is a career crusher for a fighter if they are not from UK...
Uk boxing is dominated in the promoter ranks by Warren and Hearn...then trailing behind Shalom,
Non UK fighters really need better- fairer representation as its stalling/ruining careers@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Signing with Frank Warren is a career crusher for a fighter if they are not from UK...
Uk boxing is dominated in the promoter ranks by Warren and Hearn...then trailing behind Shalom,
Non UK fighters really need better- fairer representation as its stalling/ruining careersAlways been the way if you're not from the UK/US. Many Eastern Europeans fall into oblivion as a result. Promotion is a tough business and extremely tough to make profit if you don't have a TV network backing you. Look at Bob Arum and Top Rank now that they don't have the ESPN deal now. Frank Warren is like the Winston Peters of Boxing promotion. Just as you think he's down and out and won't be back, he always finds a way back in.
It's even tougher now that Turki has seemingly distanced himself from the HWs for now.
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Full story has broken. Joseph Parker tested positive for cocaine and faces a possibly lengthy ban from the sport.
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what an idiot.
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I’m not that shocked he’s used , it’s the party drug of choice for heaps of sports people whether we like it or not.
But shocked he tested positive on fight day , can’t find what sort of test it was , my understanding it only stays in the system for two days in blood tests .. Urine 4 days . Surely not
