Ashes 2025/6
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Bit late to be talking shit now Carse.
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Head very clearly keen on getting the serious drinking started
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@mariner4life said in Ashes 2025/6:
Bit late to be talking shit now Carse.
Tbf the 3rd ump stitched him up
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Rather than the high quality contest of two good teams, this entire Ashes summer is closer to a fucking meme.
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4-1
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Congratulations to Australia!
They were much better side with bat, ball and in the field, and at winning the big moments too. Fully deserving of a 4-1 win victory. They seem to have a lock on the urn these days. Starc, Head and Carey were huge and their fantastic performances were the highlights of this series.
England will take a little solace in winning a Test in Australia. Bethell, Carse and Tongue all emerged from a tough series with their reputations enhanced. Joe Root got, not one Test century in Australia, but two.
But the preparations and attitude were never remotely right from England. They only adapted their game to Australian conditions in the final two tests once Australia had retained the Ashes.
Rob Key, England's managing director, needs to carry the responsibility for not preparing his team well enough for the ultimate challenge. He should resign.
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@KiwiMurph said in Ashes 2025/6:
Being punched and then fined 70k ?
That's a tough night out. Perhaps the bouncer didn't know who he was ?
Ricky Ponting came out of his issues ok though, maybe Brook will do the same......
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@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
Good effort to get six poms in there despite losing 4-1
on first glance it looks fucking stupid, but...
Head far and away the best bat, and best opener.
Crawley was actually the 2nd best opener.
The best 3 was actually Bethel, as Loosbuschange and especially Pope were average.
Root was the best 4
Brook the best 5.
Carey in to 6
Of the all rounders both Stokes and Green were average with the bat, but Stokes was good with the ball.
Starc walks in
The other 3 best bowlers in terms of output and actual game impact would be Boland, Neser and Tongue. Archer was actually pretty average, and i saw another team that included Carse who took a few wickets but bought most of them.So you could very easily make a case that, based on performance in their spot alone, that the team should be 6-5 in favour of English players. Which is insane given a 4-1 result. It just shows how much the Aussies leaned on Head runs, Carey runs and keeping, and Starc wickets, ably backed up by spells from Boland and Neser.
Because they carried Weatherald, Labuschagne, Khawaja, and Green. -
In fact, you look at that post, realise half the Australian batting line up struggled, and add in:
Hazlewwod didn't play a game
Cummins played 1, not fully fit.
Lyon was an absolute non-entity.
Smith missed a test and was not the dominant force
Root scored two hundreds in Australia.These are all things that, in early October, should have signified a massive England win (especially given the "best English team" chat) and yet they series was over in a matter of days. This is the type of result that should result in a rethink and a rebuild.
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@mariner4life said in Ashes 2025/6:
@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
Good effort to get six poms in there despite losing 4-1
on first glance it looks fucking stupid, but...
Head far and away the best bat, and best opener.
Crawley was actually the 2nd best opener.
The best 3 was actually Bethel, as Loosbuschange and especially Pope were average.
Root was the best 4
Brook the best 5.
Carey in to 6
Of the all rounders both Stokes and Green were average with the bat, but Stokes was good with the ball.
Starc walks in
The other 3 best bowlers in terms of output and actual game impact would be Boland, Neser and Tongue. Archer was actually pretty average, and i saw another team that included Carse who took a few wickets but bought most of them.So you could very easily make a case that, based on performance in their spot alone, that the team should be 6-5 in favour of English players. Which is insane given a 4-1 result. It just shows how much the Aussies leaned on Head runs, Carey runs and keeping, and Starc wickets, ably backed up by spells from Boland and Neser.
Because they carried Weatherald, Labuschagne, Khawaja, and Green.Skull is having none of this nonsense……
But seriously, you make a good point. Root and Stokes get in ( on bowling, not batting ), Brook deserves a shout and even Crawley despite a pair first test had his moments. Archer, Tongue and Carse all had fine spells too.
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that's fake news from Skull, no way he's not picking a spinner.
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@mariner4life said in Ashes 2025/6:
@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
Good effort to get six poms in there despite losing 4-1
on first glance it looks fucking stupid, but...
Head far and away the best bat, and best opener.
Crawley was actually the 2nd best opener.
The best 3 was actually Bethel, as Loosbuschange and especially Pope were average.
Root was the best 4
Brook the best 5.
Carey in to 6
Of the all rounders both Stokes and Green were average with the bat, but Stokes was good with the ball.
Starc walks in
The other 3 best bowlers in terms of output and actual game impact would be Boland, Neser and Tongue. Archer was actually pretty average, and i saw another team that included Carse who took a few wickets but bought most of them.So you could very easily make a case that, based on performance in their spot alone, that the team should be 6-5 in favour of English players. Which is insane given a 4-1 result. It just shows how much the Aussies leaned on Head runs, Carey runs and keeping, and Starc wickets, ably backed up by spells from Boland and Neser.
Because they carried Weatherald, Labuschagne, Khawaja, and Green.It also shows the difference between the sides was coaching / gameplan rather than individual performances. McCullum has to wear this Ashes loss, it was his attack at all costs gameplan that cost them the first three matches.
Oh, and dropped catches. So many easy catches shelled that would have completed changed the course of every test.
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@No-Quarter said in Ashes 2025/6:
@mariner4life said in Ashes 2025/6:
@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
Good effort to get six poms in there despite losing 4-1
on first glance it looks fucking stupid, but...
Head far and away the best bat, and best opener.
Crawley was actually the 2nd best opener.
The best 3 was actually Bethel, as Loosbuschange and especially Pope were average.
Root was the best 4
Brook the best 5.
Carey in to 6
Of the all rounders both Stokes and Green were average with the bat, but Stokes was good with the ball.
Starc walks in
The other 3 best bowlers in terms of output and actual game impact would be Boland, Neser and Tongue. Archer was actually pretty average, and i saw another team that included Carse who took a few wickets but bought most of them.So you could very easily make a case that, based on performance in their spot alone, that the team should be 6-5 in favour of English players. Which is insane given a 4-1 result. It just shows how much the Aussies leaned on Head runs, Carey runs and keeping, and Starc wickets, ably backed up by spells from Boland and Neser.
Because they carried Weatherald, Labuschagne, Khawaja, and Green.It also shows the difference between the sides was coaching / gameplan rather than individual performances. McCullum has to wear this Ashes loss, it was his attack at all costs gameplan that cost them the first three matches.
Oh, and dropped catches. So many easy catches shelled that would have completed changed the course of every test.
When you're as bits and pieces at test level as Will Jacks is you need to be a shit hot fielder. That dropped catch was one of the biggest clangers I've ever seen.
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I get he's the main guy, and therefore buck stops etc. And Bazball is a fun thing to say. But i would be looking at some other areas before i just chucked Baz in teh bin.
Who is the batting coach? Some of the technique shown on this tour was disgraceful.
Did i read correctly that they don't even have a fielding coach? Considering the shelled chances that is telling.
Some of the bowling plans, especially early on, were absolutely retarded. Bowling short at Boland when he's doing nothing by buying time in Brisbane? The short shit in Perth allowing Head to just hit freely? Some of the pitch maps were telling.While this go fast at all times mantra definitely cost them, my personal opinion is it had less to do with the result than the details and plans that make up a test or a tour. Basics fluffybunnies, they matter!
