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  • canefanC Online
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    wrote last edited by
    #932

    We are a laughing stock. But maybe we need to hit rock bottom before things get better. I think Razor's odds of staying are lengthening with articles like this

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    wrote last edited by taniwharugby
    #933

    Just heard a soundbite on the radio about the review, so where there's smoke, there be fire.

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  • ChrisC Online
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    replied to canefan last edited by
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    We are a laughing stock. But maybe we need to hit rock bottom before things get better. I think Razor's odds of staying are lengthening with articles like this

    Or Savea

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  • Landers92L Do not disturb
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    wrote last edited by Landers92
    #935

    It’s a shame things have come to this.

    I’m sure both sides have differing stories but at the end of the day the locker room has been lost and that falls on management and coaches.

    Tomorrow will be interesting. If I hear anything before hand, I will throw it in here.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to taniwharugby last edited by
    #936

    @taniwharugby What was it?

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  • canefanC Online
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    replied to Chris last edited by
    #937

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    We are a laughing stock. But maybe we need to hit rock bottom before things get better. I think Razor's odds of staying are lengthening with articles like this

    Or Savea

    No one comes out looking good

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  • ChrisC Online
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    replied to canefan last edited by
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    We are a laughing stock. But maybe we need to hit rock bottom before things get better. I think Razor's odds of staying are lengthening with articles like this

    Or Savea

    No one comes out looking good

    Sad thing is you are right
    There is no doubt if Razor stays Savea can not
    Unless Hansons head is the compromise but then Savea runs the ABs either way .

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    replied to Landers92 last edited by
    #939

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:

    It’s a shame things have come to this.

    I’m sure both sides have differing stories but at the end of the day the locker room has been lost at that falls on management and coaches.

    Tomorrow will be interesting. If I hear anything before hand, I will throw it in here.

    i get that in general....but....lots of the same players weren't firing under fozzie....so ideally everybloodyone goes and we start from scracth based on merit....but if if i have to keep the old guard of players OR Razor....i think i would give Razor a run without these guys working against him

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  • ChrisC Online
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    replied to Kiwiwomble last edited by
    #940

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:

    It’s a shame things have come to this.

    I’m sure both sides have differing stories but at the end of the day the locker room has been lost at that falls on management and coaches.

    Tomorrow will be interesting. If I hear anything before hand, I will throw it in here.

    i get that in general....but....lots of the same players weren't firing under fozzie....so ideally everybloodyone goes and we start from scracth based on merit....but if if i have to keep the old guard of players OR Razor....i think i would give Razor a run without these guys working against him

    100 percent agree start from scratch seems the best way but I understand it will not end up that way.

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  • F Offline
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    wrote last edited by
    #941

    Keeping Razor is a no go for me now
    Scott Hansen will be goneski and Razor heavily relies on him.
    Razor, to my mind, has gone from having the Midas touch with Canterbury to a shallow character out of his depth.

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    replied to Chris last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2026:

    It’s a shame things have come to this.

    I’m sure both sides have differing stories but at the end of the day the locker room has been lost at that falls on management and coaches.

    Tomorrow will be interesting. If I hear anything before hand, I will throw it in here.

    i get that in general....but....lots of the same players weren't firing under fozzie....so ideally everybloodyone goes and we start from scracth based on merit....but if if i have to keep the old guard of players OR Razor....i think i would give Razor a run without these guys working against him

    100 percent agree start from scratch seems the best way but I understand it will not end up that way.

    yeah, not going to happen but fun to rant about it

    IF it did happen, a full clear out....lots of guys would probably still get in...but make the prove it in super first

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  • TimT Away
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    wrote last edited by Tim
    #943

    Rugby Direct Emergency Podcast: Potential changes to the All Blacks coaching environment after a scathing internal review and will Ardie Savea remain an All Black?

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-196/

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  • canefanC Online
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    replied to Chris last edited by canefan
    #944

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    We are a laughing stock. But maybe we need to hit rock bottom before things get better. I think Razor's odds of staying are lengthening with articles like this

    Or Savea

    No one comes out looking good

    Sad thing is you are right
    There is no doubt if Razor stays Savea can not
    Unless Hansons head is the compromise but then Savea runs the ABs either way .

    I'm okay with Ardie leaving and the coaches all getting fired. BB to assume a largely non-playing ambassadorial role for sponsors

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Tim last edited by
    #945

    @Tim ha yeah sorry, wasnt much more than has been said here, just under pressure, Ardie future in doubt....

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  • R Offline
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    #946

    You'd have to think that with Kirk's experience of senior players undermining him as captain post Boks tour he wouldn't have much time for that sort of behaviour.

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    #947

    Razor, Hansen, Savea all have to go. Give Jamie Joseph a clean slate without the baggage of these 3. Savea is turning into a brand like SBW giving ultimatums. Too much Savea worshipping by the fans and media has gone into his head. Razor has brought into his own hype too. While these guys are internally fighting, the All Blacks brand is getting tarnished. Player power should be nipped in the bud. Very dangerous times for All Blacks rugby. This is not a time to celebrate, it’s sad. Sad to see the All Blacks in this situation.

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  • P Online
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    #948

    just remembered robertsons chief cheerleader Richard knowler has a Article saying he might have to ditch hanson .thought at the time he was laying some ground work, appears he was

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to Tim last edited by
    #949

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    Rugby Direct Emergency Podcast: Potential changes to the All Blacks coaching environment after a scathing internal review and will Ardie Savea remain an All Black?

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-196/

    The negative feedback is not just from players, but from support staff too.

    Sounds like Savea is one of several senior players who is very unhappy with the coaches.

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    replied to Tim last edited by
    #950

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    Rugby Direct Emergency Podcast: Potential changes to the All Blacks coaching environment after a scathing internal review and will Ardie Savea remain an All Black?

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/rugby-direct/rugby-direct-episode-196/

    The negative feedback is not just from players, but from support staff too.

    Sounds like Savea is one of several senior players who is very unhappy with the coaches.

    but do we think theyre all unhappy because razor was trying to change things and there were too many people that liked things just as they were regardless of poor results

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Tim last edited by
    #951

    @Tim and to be fair to Savea, he has played better previously (and done some work) so maybe its the structure they have got him in and the environment that has lead him to giving zero shits (again, Bok test 2 makes more sense now) while having other players struggling with the envionment the cracks that used to be papered over are wide open for all to see

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