All Blacks 2026
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
I would welcome seeing Sir Steve Hansen back involved with the All Blacks either as a coach or a selector or an adviser. Smart guy, driven, humble, always there for his players.
Take no shit sort of guy too.Likes putting the players on edge.
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Another thing about Razor, is he put himself forward as this 'culture coach' which is all well and good if things are going well, but with all the reports on here, he seemed to fail miserably at it and flog everyone off to either Scott Hansen or just ignore every issue (along with treating Dalton Papali'i like a dog).
It baffles me that he was seen as that guy who put culture first, and did the complete opposite to it.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Ok I got question for posters going forward this year. We have opinions on BB , Ardie etc being in team. If they are still picked by new coach, are you still going to get behind them, or are you perhaps going to admit that they should be there? Or are we smarter than even another AB coach? Remembering they pick players for how they want team to play, and with all the info on them, not from watching a bit on tv (with just a few angles) and occasional trip to a game. I will be interested to see responses from whatever players etc are picked.
What is your thinking if the coach selects these two and they play poorly as they have and we keep losing.
Is the coach poor are these two poor or is it just close eyes and hope.Ok Chris, I know I different to you and a few, but I genuinely don't think I know more than the coaches on what they want from players. I have no problem admitting that .
My opinion if the coach keeps picking the players and we keep losing? That perhaps we just not good enough to win? I usually have an opinion on how players are going, but genuinely as I said, just my opinion, and have never really thought I know more than the coaches etc. Or anyone for that matter, just I realise that if enough experienced and pro coahes etc think differently, I perhaps realise I should admit they have the data, plans etc that I am ignorant of, -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Ok I got question for posters going forward this year. We have opinions on BB , Ardie etc being in team. If they are still picked by new coach, are you still going to get behind them, or are you perhaps going to admit that they should be there? Or are we smarter than even another AB coach? Remembering they pick players for how they want team to play, and with all the info on them, not from watching a bit on tv (with just a few angles) and occasional trip to a game. I will be interested to see responses from whatever players etc are picked.
What is your thinking if the coach selects these two and they play poorly as they have and we keep losing.
Is the coach poor are these two poor or is it just close eyes and hope.Ok Chris, I know I different to you and a few, but I genuinely don't think I know more than the coaches on what they want from players. I have no problem admitting that .
My opinion if the coach keeps picking the players and we keep losing? That perhaps we just not good enough to win? I usually have an opinion on how players are going, but genuinely as I said, just my opinion, and have never really thought I know more than the coaches etc. Or anyone for that matter, just I realise that if enough experienced and pro coahes etc think differently, I perhaps realise I should admit they have the data, plans etc that I am ignorant of,Ok I just was interested in how you would think if that happened.
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
I’m not trying to twist and turn so apologies if I am. I just see him (and Beuden) as part of the systemic rot in the ABs environment and he needs to go
Fair enough. I'd like to see Ardie in the 23 but something isn't working and other players need to be tried. With Beauden he surprised me in that English game but the backline isn't working and it seems to me DMac (who isn't everyone's favourite here) gets that ball moving better. I can't understand why Beauden can't improve his kicking, he improved his tackling from when he started but his kicking is - not international standard IMHO.
Plus they really have to build depth at 10. It's been one of my personal gripes. I have been disappointed with how conservative Razor's mob have been with that backline. -
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Too many posts to go back over, unsure if already posted but this new page popped up on my SM, shameless
From sources inside nzr? Has TSF changed its name?
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:
Foster knew this. He was treated badly
Ditto Robertson in many ways. I hope Kirk questions how much assessment & support they gave the tyro manager they appointed as AB Coach. The problems which came to a head today, didn't just suddenly manifest themselves
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Plus they really have to build depth at 10. It's been one of my personal gripes. I have been disappointed with how conservative Razor's mob have been with that backline.
It was obvious that Robertson was in a holding pattern at 1st 5 until Mo'unga returned. The threat of losing also leads to conservative selections. The new AB coach needs to be bolder and be prepared to make some tough calls.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
Too many posts to go back over, unsure if already posted but this new page popped up on my SM, shameless
From sources inside nzr? Has TSF changed its name?
Haha who runs that account on here team?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
Yep, and you have to wonder whether player loyalty to Foster meant there was a bit of angst at him being treated badly, which easily translates into anti-Robertson feeling when things aren't going well. Combine that with factions within the team and shit can go south quick.
Yep. Foster def. to blame for Robertson's departure.......
Yup that is too long a bow to draw...
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
It was obvious that Robertson was in a holding pattern at 1st 5 until Mo'unga returned. The threat of losing also leads to conservative selections. The new AB coach needs to be bolder and be prepared to make some tough calls.
I don't disagree with you. I was surprised DMac stayed after hearing that.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Ok I got question for posters going forward this year. We have opinions on BB , Ardie etc being in team. If they are still picked by new coach, are you still going to get behind them, or are you perhaps going to admit that they should be there? Or are we smarter than even another AB coach? Remembering they pick players for how they want team to play, and with all the info on them, not from watching a bit on tv (with just a few angles) and occasional trip to a game. I will be interested to see responses from whatever players etc are picked.
What is your thinking if the coach selects these two and they play poorly as they have and we keep losing.
Is the coach poor are these two poor or is it just close eyes and hope.Ok Chris, I know I different to you and a few, but I genuinely don't think I know more than the coaches on what they want from players. I have no problem admitting that .
My opinion if the coach keeps picking the players and we keep losing? That perhaps we just not good enough to win? I usually have an opinion on how players are going, but genuinely as I said, just my opinion, and have never really thought I know more than the coaches etc. Or anyone for that matter, just I realise that if enough experienced and pro coahes etc think differently, I perhaps realise I should admit they have the data, plans etc that I am ignorant of,Ok I just was interested in how you would think if that happened.
I agree with you Chris. The career of Eddie Jones has really convinced me of the good or bad impact a coach and his team can have.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
I would welcome seeing Sir Steve Hansen back involved with the All Blacks either as a coach or a selector or an adviser. Smart guy, driven, humble, always there for his players.
Advisor maybe. I thought Luatua was handled pretty badly.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Another thing about Razor, is he put himself forward as this 'culture coach' which is all well and good if things are going well, but with all the reports on here, he seemed to fail miserably at it and flog everyone off to either Scott Hansen or just ignore every issue (along with treating Dalton Papali'i like a dog).
It baffles me that he was seen as that guy who put culture first, and did the complete opposite to it.
was listening to talkback last night driving home from work and they read out a text from someone who was 'mates with a senior player' - said key concern from senior AB's was that Robertson was undermining and destroying the AB culture that had been built up over many years. Also there was something about his lack of integrity dealing with players.
Was chatting to the old man later and he was saying he remembered chatting to razor in Scotland many moons ago when he was one of the dirty dirtys boozed at the pub - and was saying how much he hated being on tour and how much he hated the environment.
I wonder if he has a very different view to how the environment / culture should be in his head that wildly differs from the majority
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@Kiwiwomble That's why he brought back Ritchie Mo
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@mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:
I think we are getting a touch of what Canterbury / Crusaders social media looks like right now.
I reckon.
Looks like they are beginning a SM counter-offensive.
But they got nuttin.(![https://i.imgflip.com/tan9f.jpg])
No one here is defending Scott Robertson his results were not good enough and for a team like the All Blacks he was rightly moved on and expectations should be of someone coming in and doing a better job.
There does appear to be plenty of revisionist defending Ian Fosters record as well as Ardie Savea and Beauden Barret and their inability to create a winning team environment.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
There does appear to be plenty of revisionist defending Ian Fosters record as well as Ardie Savea and Beauden Barret and their inability to create a winning team environment.
I've been super consistent in thinking Foster should have gone after 2 years and that Razor should have had a crack. We'd be where we are now, but 4 years earlier.
Our board and management were not competent. Any time you put accountants and marketers at the front you wind up in a shit place eventually.
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@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks 2026:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:
Another thing about Razor, is he put himself forward as this 'culture coach' which is all well and good if things are going well, but with all the reports on here, he seemed to fail miserably at it and flog everyone off to either Scott Hansen or just ignore every issue (along with treating Dalton Papali'i like a dog).
It baffles me that he was seen as that guy who put culture first, and did the complete opposite to it.
was listening to talkback last night driving home from work and they read out a text from someone who was 'mates with a senior player' - said key concern from senior AB's was that Robertson was undermining and destroying the AB culture that had been built up over many years. Also there was something about his lack of integrity dealing with players.
Was chatting to the old man later and he was saying he remembered chatting to razor in Scotland many moons ago when he was one of the dirty dirtys boozed at the pub - and was saying how much he hated being on tour and how much he hated the environment.
I wonder if he has a very different view to how the environment / culture should be in his head that wildly differs from the majority
Yeah, maybe he prefers the way the Canterbury/Crusaders enviroment is run as opposed to the way the ABs enviroment is run and thought he could change that?
Either way, we all can't deny that whatever he did, he failed miserably at it.
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@Virgil said in All Blacks 2026:
Right, as suggested ive gone through this thread right to the beginning to get a timeline and break down the events that lead to yesterdays dramatic turn of events.
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Thread begins innocently November 26th by @nzzp with the fixtures for this year
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1101537
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Things start getting interesting November 27th with @Young-Hamiltons post re Scott Hansen is the one actually coaching the AB's, not Robertson
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1101798 -
December 3rd and the dreaded 'review' is first mentioned by @Frank
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1102832 -
December 7th its announced the Coaching set up is looking at making changes as posted by @Tim
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1103653 -
December 10th @Landers92 comments that Nick Evans is the new assistant
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December 13th the cracks behind the scenes start to show as posted by @Tim
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1104316
@canefan called it..
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1104339 "I can't see how this improves trust unless they bin the coaches"
Rumors and talk of Dalton Papalii turning down being selected for the team on last years NH tour are brought up.
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1104412
We need to fast forward a few weeks....
- 3 days ago @Landers92 posts some juicy goss
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107200
"Been pretty slack posting over the Christmas break but here’s what I’ve been told that I can post.
Beauden Barrett is heavily trusted by Razor and co to the point he is effectively running the trainings. Dmac has a say but by all accounts BB is the guy who has final say.
Yes your 10’s usually run your team runs etc, but from what I’m told BB is doing more than just that. Makes you wonder what the roles of these current coaches actually are.
There was also a high profile All Black that was out after the England game until 5am which broke curfew, he didn’t get dropped or punished which is a bit of a double standard as EDG was kept out of a couple games for the same thing on last years EOYT.
By all accounts, and I’m pointing out the obvious here, it’s pretty toxic in camp"-
Its mentioned the review is done and the final decision is on hold...not for very long in the end apparently
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Then @george33 posts a couple of interesting tidbits of info including news that Ardie is unlikely to play again under the current coaching team
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107216
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107257
- things get juicer later that day...
@george33 commenting hes heard Robertson is likely to walk followed by news Kirk is going to sack him
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107283
@george33 comments again
So have heard from another source is that Razor is gone or stepping away .
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107323- @MacDazzler with the understatement of the year award..
This thread has gotten very interesting.
Cue lots of shit posting and usual Fern chatter....
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Then 2 days ago
@george33 with more great sauce My source came back and said coaches will be told this but no official announcement until new coaches are signed on he's hearing Joseph and Brown .That's all he's hearing. How it plays out have to wait and see. -
A day later the NZ Herald gets into the act as shared by @Tim
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107596
@george33 posts that Robertson is gone
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1107694More online news sites publish stories all but confirming Scott Robertson is going to be sacked, somehow a news site in Ireland is first to pick this story up (Pay wall)
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/scott-robertson-to-depart-all-blacks-head-coach-role-as-player-power-forces-nzr-hand/a1191576889.htmlLocal sites start picking the story up
https://www.1news.co.nz/2026/01/15/scott-robertson-axed-as-all-blacks-coach/
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360924724/speculation-mounting-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertson-could-be-sacked@Chris updates with more sauce Ok so this what I have amongst all the rumours etc take it for what it is.
The Board is being presented the Review findings today.
Razor has not officially been sacked yet the Board has to vote on it.
Probably will happen as the Board normally goes with the recommendation's from the Review.
Razor has asked to present to the board before any final decisions are made.
From a good source but there is many different stories out there.
https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1108211- Then its confirmed
The fern
Just to add to this.
The Leon McDonald saga that I was initially called out for.
Also yesterday I updated the Nick Evans situation. Questions were asked but he has since interviewed for teams in Japan. I don’t know where things currently sit with that situation.
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