NZ Cricket best XI's
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Cyclops said in Black Caps tour of India:
Astle averaged close to 40 as a bowler, and Mitch isn't much better. I don't think opening is as much of a specialist role as it is in tests. I'd drop Astle for Cairns and have Cairns batting 6 with everyone else moving up one (so KW opening - he's been pretty good at it in T20).
I was looking at NZ bowlers ODI averages the other day and Chris Pringle was a remarkably effective ODI bowler. Different eras and all that (defending 2 runs in a final over is surely impossible now) but got to give him an honourable mention.
From memory Pringle was an early pioneer of the slower ball. It developed into a weapon for him.
Didn't he get a start after turning up to training as a net bowler? Not on anyone's radar, but he impressed so much they gave him a go (injuries may have helped his cause too)
I believe the story is he turned up at a training session to ask if there were any tickets going and got drafted in because of an injury crisis. I think it was during a tour of England and he was over there playing pro cricket (but not top level county cricket).
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@reprobate said in Black Caps tour of India:
Kyle Mills was bloody mediocre. Geoff Allott no mention and far superior.
The fuck ?
Most other Black Caps bowlers must be even worse.
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@Godder said in Black Caps tour of India:
I think Guptill, KW, Taylor, M Crowe, Hadlee and Vettori are certainties.
McCullum is a certainty but can either be a keeper and bat 6 or 7, or an opener. If opening, could make him keep anyway or select Smith as keeper and #9 batter (good SR, would be useful late).
If McCullum is 6 or 7, Astle is probably the next best opener. If McCullum opens, C Cairns could play and bat 6.
Bond and Boult round out a nice 11, but could be tricky deciding who opens the bowling with Hadlee.
NZ has a proud history of very good guys who have busted out a match winning innings or bowling spell here and there. Cairns, Harry, Oram, Styris, Elliot.....to more recent guys like Santner, Neesh, Bracewell and Phillips.......but here's the thing. If everyone is available in my mythical team I can't find a spot for Cairns, his overall figures just aren't quite good enough. Assuming McCullum keeps and bats seven I reckon I'd stack the top order with big scorers like Guptill, Astle, KW, Taylor, Crowe and Mitchell ( I believe this bunch speaks for itself with no glaring omissions ) with Astle, Crowe and Mitchell sharing the 10 overs that the specialists don't bowl between them.
This of course assumes that Paddles, Bond and Boult tear through the batting line up and Vettori contains, frustrates and gets wickets too. Two very handy extra batting options here as well.
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Any NZ ODI team without Astle and Harry in it can fuck right off.
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps tour of India:
Any NZ ODI team without Astle and Harry in it can fuck right off.
Harry can be the 12th man who conveniently is needed to field for 50 overs
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:
@reprobate said in Black Caps tour of India:
Kyle Mills was bloody mediocre. Geoff Allott no mention and far superior.
The fuck ?
Most other Black Caps bowlers must be even worse.
Ah yep, that's correct.
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Kyle was the world's number 1 ranked ODI bowler at one point wasn't he?
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps tour of India:
Kyle was the world's number 1 ranked ODI bowler at one point wasn't he?
Yeah I think so. He's still a horrible line and length medium-at-best pacer.
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@Gunner said in Black Caps tour of India:
Guptill
McCullum (wk)
KW
Taylor
Crowe
Mitchell
Cairns
Vettori
Hadlee
Boult
Bondmy problem with this team is Vettori is not a good enough bat to be at 8. Cairns isn't really good enough at 7 either, especially with some pretty ordinary bowling figures.
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps tour of India:
@Gunner said in Black Caps tour of India:
Guptill
McCullum (wk)
KW
Taylor
Crowe
Mitchell
Cairns
Vettori
Hadlee
Boult
Bondmy problem with this team is Vettori is not a good enough bat to be at 8. Cairns isn't really good enough at 7 either, especially with some pretty ordinary bowling figures.
This team is getting a hiding from nearly every other best of side.Slot Kyle Mills in there and we'll be alright mate.
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are you okay mate?
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@mariner4life said in Black Caps tour of India:
are you okay mate?
Yeah, I guess. I mean come on Mum, Kyle Mills? Really?
