All Blacks 2026
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Very sad we don't get someone like Tony Brown. Nick Evans, O'Gara? Who are now the likely assistant coach candidates?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Very sad we don't get someone like Tony Brown.
Let's see what happens with Brown.
I'm sceptical that 48 hours after the coaching change is announced that there's a definitive answer on Brown.
Whilst there was plenty of rumours in this thread that were on the money this week, there was also plenty that weren't.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2026:
Tana can be the cultural connector or whatever that is, fine, but I don't want him anywhere near strategy or the other details of coaching. He SUCKED at the Blues.
Maybe a defence coach. I think there’s better options than him though
I rate your opinion highly. Who would you have as contenders?
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David Kirk when asked if it was too risky making a change this late in the cycle replied with " no, we felt it was too risky not to make a change now"
A brave move by the board and the right move.
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@Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks 2026:
David Kirk when asked if it was too risky making a change this late in the cycle replied with " no, we felt it was too risky not to make a change now"
A brave move by the board and the right move.
He's right though. We might still have a tough 2026, but it sounded toxic and I think it would have been worse if things stayed the same.
Something had to give.
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We have been pretty much treading water since around 2017 and we all had high hopes that change was coming from 2024.
What has happened though, in my view, is that we have gone backwards and seen things that I thought I would never see.
Most disturbing to me is the acceptance of mediocrity that so many scribes, punters, players and coaches have tried to ram down our throats.
This is why what David Kirk said on Thursday excites me.
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So if we assume JJ applies and that Brown is unavailable, this would now be the 3rd coaching team in a row that wanted Brown, but he didnt want to be part of the 1st 2 and is now unavailable...
Would also mean, it is the 3rd consecutive coaching team that supposedly won't be the '1st choice'
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:
I've never warmed to Robertson's personality and always found it cringe-worthy when listening to him speak. Obviously there are reasons for that, some known, others perhaps not, but I wasn't surprised when reading what a sports journalist had to say about his press conferences:
"You can't really make sense of what he is saying. If that's what he is like to the media, what is he like behind closed doors?"
Agreed - a point I've made before. Add to Razor's incoherent ramblings the manglement of Scott Hansen and it's no wonder our teams looked utterly confused in the second half.
The comments about his communication style - which I also found incomprehensible - keeps bringing me back to the big head scratcher of how this worked at the Crusaders?
I can see how and agree that it was a failure in the AB environment - but is the Crusaders environment that different?
I am honestly really confused how things could have gone so well at the Crusaders and that none of the issues identified in the review - especially around communication - manifested themselves over the course of 7 years in that environment.
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Not sure Joseph is the best choice without Brown. He might be, but might not.
What I DON'T want is some kind of bland acceptance that it's his time or he must get it because he coached NZ A.
That kind of fatalistic thinking by the board has been a problem for years
If, for example, Rennie comes back and kills it in the interview, pick him
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Got me baffled too but might go some way to explaining why we have been so shit in the second half under this regime.
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2026:
@W32 said in All Blacks 2026:
Apologies if this has been asked, but if the ABs were rated #1 in the world instead of #2, does the fern think he still would have been canned? Has this happened because a NZ coach (TB) is assisting Nzeds biggest rival and Kirk et al are thinking this is a genius move? Word is that it wasn't a player revolt so one has to think it’s because the ABs are not number one.
Or is this shake up because NZ rugby as a whole is in a shambles and Razor has effectively been the scapegoat?I think it's less about NZ Rugby as a whole, and more that the All Blacks themselves were a complete shambles by their long term standards.
I've commented probably a few times now - Razor should have been sacked after the night of the Wellington loss to the Springboks.
Not because they lost, but because All Black sides simply do not give up with 20 minutes to go in a game of rugby.
The win percentage sometimes commented on (elsewhere) is a red herring. The All Blacks could be selected, enter a game week with no coaches, and ordinarily should still win a moderate-ish percentage, given some of their schedules.
You don't think that should mean alot of the players who gave up should be sacked also? Robertson wasn't on the field alot of the senior players stabbing him in the back were the gary give ups.
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Love this thread. Not only are Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown going to come in and turn us into world beaters in record time but the snowflake senior players are all going to love Jamie Joseph's style of 'old school' coaching that from what I hear involves swearing and abusing players.
Also not only do the posters on here know more about international coaching than Scott Robertson but also Wayne Smith now.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Love this thread. Not only are Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown going to come in and turn us into world beaters in record time but the snowflake senior players are all going to love Jamie Joseph's style of 'old school' coaching that from what I hear involves swearing and abusing players.
Also not only do the posters on here know more about international coaching than Scott Robertson but also Wayne Smith now.
Fozzie and John Mitchell too.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
You don't think that should mean alot of the players who gave up should be sacked also? Robertson wasn't on the field alot of the senior players stabbing him in the back were the gary give ups.
We don't actually know if the second half players in that game who seemed to give up were the ones with the bad feedback, do we?
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:
Love this thread. Not only are Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown going to come in and turn us into world beaters in record time but the snowflake senior players are all going to love Jamie Joseph's style of 'old school' coaching that from what I hear involves swearing and abusing players.
Also not only do the posters on here know more about international coaching than Scott Robertson but also Wayne Smith now.
Cry more. Just go and have a few quiets with Scott, it's all going to be ok.
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@Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks 2026:
We have been pretty much treading water since around 2017 and we all had high hopes that change was coming from 2024.
What has happened though, in my view, is that we have gone backwards and seen things that I thought I would never see.
Most disturbing to me is the acceptance of mediocrity that so many scribes, punters, players and coaches have tried to ram down our throats.
This is why what David Kirk said on Thursday excites me.
He wants to bring Aura back, baby.And fans.......it was becoming accepted in the stands too.
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@tubbyj while the decision to remove Razor was the right one, it does put us in a predicament regarding the next coaching team.
One assumes Hansen and Ellison are done, so will be a full re-casting, and there dont seem a massive number of experienced coaches available right now, hence.why the likes of JJ is being seen as our.next coach, and as such, hope he is our saviour...much like many thought Razor was...
