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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    So when the review came it was not surprising that a number of players said that Robertson was too remote, that he didn’t connect or engage.

    🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

    Funny coz that was meant to be his strong suit 🤷

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2026:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360929565/man-who-brought-down-scott-robertson

    I have a small amount of sympathy for the argument that Robertson was not exactly spoiled for obvious captains when he took over. But either Savea or Dalton Papali’i would have been a more cohesive and inspirational choice. Whether Savea is still now electable after supposedly blindsiding his coach is debatable. Indeed, it is currently being debated in South Africa amongst other places.

    And what of Papali’i? The former Blues captain was mysteriously jettisoned as Robertson seemed to alienate half the Blues squad that had won Super Rugby just a year earlier. Mark Telea and Hoskins Sotutu went overseas, Rieko Ioane was progressively demoted and Papali’i was thrown into exile. It was very odd.

    So when the review came it was not surprising that a number of players said that Robertson was too remote, that he didn’t connect or engage. That was enough for NZR chairman David Kirk. The sacking was ruthless, but Kirk is a businessman. If he was going to fail with the All Blacks, then he would fail on his own terms.

    I feel far more confident that Kirk will follow due process and make reasonable decisions compared to Robinson

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    Super rugby will be interesting with these much maligned players and how they respond and play there (Sititi, Parker, BB, Proctor, SB et a) in thier more comfortable environment.

    Remember Scott Barrett has a non playing sabbatical this SR season.

    no playing? i didn't realise

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    #3418

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    Super rugby will be interesting with these much maligned players and how they respond and play there (Sititi, Parker, BB, Proctor, SB et a) in thier more comfortable environment.

    Remember Scott Barrett has a non playing sabbatical this SR season.

    no playing? i didn't realise

    I presume it's to rest his back. He's had back issues over the last couple of years

    I wonder if he'll cut the break short like Codie Taylor did in 2024

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    Super rugby will be interesting with these much maligned players and how they respond and play there (Sititi, Parker, BB, Proctor, SB et a) in thier more comfortable environment.

    Remember Scott Barrett has a non playing sabbatical this SR season.

    no playing? i didn't realise

    So much like 2025 with the ABs then...

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    @Duluth could make or break his career i guess.
    Comes back refreshed and energised, or, realises that his body doesnt like the grind...

    I know I have mentioned it before, but with him not playing, Ardie in Japan, is even less reason for the next captain to be announced until the squad is assembled.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth could make or break his career i guess.
    Comes back refreshed and energised, or, realises that his body doesnt like the grind...

    I know I have mentioned it before, but with him not playing, Ardie in Japan, is even less reason for the next captain to be announced until the squad is assembled.

    Premediation is fine when picking the captain, as long as the guy is an undisputable pick (which SB was not IMHO). Razor fell into the Taine Randell trap

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Scott Barret due back to play last 2 rounds then play offs if the Crusaders make it.
    The plan is he needs some rugby for AB selection and to get match fit.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth could make or break his career i guess.
    Comes back refreshed and energised, or, realises that his body doesnt like the grind...

    I know I have mentioned it before, but with him not playing, Ardie in Japan, is even less reason for the next captain to be announced until the squad is assembled.

    Don't think either Foster or Robertson named their captain until the squads were announced so would be very surprising if the next coach bucked the trend.

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    replied to Mr Fish last edited by
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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth could make or break his career i guess.
    Comes back refreshed and energised, or, realises that his body doesnt like the grind...

    I know I have mentioned it before, but with him not playing, Ardie in Japan, is even less reason for the next captain to be announced until the squad is assembled.

    Don't think either Foster or Robertson named their captain until the squads were announced so would be very surprising if the next coach bucked the trend.

    Funny. I recall different.

    Happy to be proven wrong though.

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    @Mr-Fish I thought both he and Cane were named prior....either way, the new coach will be the 1st one to name a squad post a 'sacking' which bucked the trend.

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    Cane was announced during the COVID lockdowns in rather bizarre circumstances when they didn’t have any games scheduled

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    @Mr-Fish Barrett captaincy and squad both announced on June 24, 2024?

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    Ah yes was wrong on the Cane front but extenuating circumstances...

    Foster said at the time: “We wanted to confirm Sam now because he’ll play a key role helping us plan for whatever the future looks like and will be working behind the scenes with the other leaders."

    And yes, Barrett was announced alongside the first squad of the year in 2024.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Tim Mark Reason? He still around.

    Worst part is I agree with him.

    He is still so very British:
    "They cost the All Blacks their aura"
    England didn't on that one game, that one moment.
    Nice try to make England responsible for our fall in form, to puncture that mythical aura. But it isn't true.

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth could make or break his career i guess.
    Comes back refreshed and energised, or, realises that his body doesnt like the grind...

    I know I have mentioned it before, but with him not playing, Ardie in Japan, is even less reason for the next captain to be announced until the squad is assembled.

    That's a good point, the next captain.
    Not sure if Codie is in the right head space either.
    Black surfer armbands for the next game.

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    replied to nostrildamus last edited by booboo
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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Tim Mark Reason? He still around.

    Worst part is I agree with him.

    He is still so very British:
    "They cost the All Blacks their aura"
    England didn't on that one game, that one moment.
    Nice try to make England responsible for our fall in form, to puncture that mythical aura. But it isn't true.

    Did he say that? I missed it. Excellent. One for Aura Watch.

    We still got it 🙂

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus last edited by canefan
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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Duluth could make or break his career i guess.
    Comes back refreshed and energised, or, realises that his body doesnt like the grind...

    I know I have mentioned it before, but with him not playing, Ardie in Japan, is even less reason for the next captain to be announced until the squad is assembled.

    That's a good point, the next captain.
    Not sure if Codie is in the right head space either.
    Black surfer armbands for the next game.

    Hopefully he'll be able to move forward and when he takes time to reflect on Razor's tenure he will come to the conclusion that we were pretty shit

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Tim Mark Reason? He still around.

    Worst part is I agree with him.

    He is still so very British:
    "They cost the All Blacks their aura"
    England didn't on that one game, that one moment.
    Nice try to make England responsible for our fall in form, to puncture that mythical aura. But it isn't true.

    Did he say that? I misser it. Excellent. One for Aura Watch.

    We still git it 🙂

    Yup in the original linked article next to "Cost Scott Robertson his job."

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    @nostrildamus jeez, my typing is even worse than Razor's coaching

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