Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions
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Haha Lowe giving Furlong a lesson on the ruck.
@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
Haha Lowe giving Furlong a lesson on the ruck.
Those two will be team mates shortly at Leinster, I think.
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More than a bit gutted about that game. Dont think I've ever seen a Maori team look so woefully inept, and to make it worse, they seemed to lose the plot more and more as the game went on after a pretty good start. Akira played well, but can't really think of anyone else to praise. Countless dumb mistakes, terrible ham hands under the high ball, and shitty kicking either out on the full, or straight into the Lions hands.
Very unimpressed with the coaching team. When things started to go to shit, they should have made changes immediately, not waited until the game was lost. McKenzie should have gone to fullback at half time, Lowe to wing, so they were in position at least. Also can't believe players like Hika and Ihaia were left on the bench until the 70th minute. Ben May was fucking shit in the scrums, the Maori forwards were getting owned every time. GAH.
But at the end of the day, the Lions were hungry, and clearly more than a few wanted to put their hands up for the first test. Gatland now has a quite nice problem - who to pick. As for the Maori, well, less said the better. In that these guys were so strong on paper, former All Blacks, fringe All Blacks, Super players, they have no excuses for playing like rank amateurs. The Barbarians played with more heart and cohesion.
Oh yes, and Marshall and Johnson can go fuck themselves. The fellating of the Lions players all game was actually sickening - Hansen and Co will be thoughtful, but I doubt very much scared at what they saw from the opposition. I think they would be far more horrified at what they saw from some of their own. Methinks Dave Rennie will be spitting tacks at how Messam, Lowe, DMac, TKB etc played. Will be very interesting to see the make up of the Chiefs team next week.
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Those chiefs legends were slightly detrimental to the MAB's cause.
Even Ngatai wasn't his usual self, looked short of a gallop. Lowe and Messam just looked like they were playing drunk. What the hell was up with Lowe kicking the ball everytime he got it, even in space on attack? And accurate kicking at that...
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More than a bit gutted about that game. Dont think I've ever seen a Maori team look so woefully inept, and to make it worse, they seemed to lose the plot more and more as the game went on after a pretty good start. Akira played well, but can't really think of anyone else to praise. Countless dumb mistakes, terrible ham hands under the high ball, and shitty kicking either out on the full, or straight into the Lions hands.
Very unimpressed with the coaching team. When things started to go to shit, they should have made changes immediately, not waited until the game was lost. McKenzie should have gone to fullback at half time, Lowe to wing, so they were in position at least. Also can't believe players like Hika and Ihaia were left on the bench until the 70th minute. Ben May was fucking shit in the scrums, the Maori forwards were getting owned every time. GAH.
But at the end of the day, the Lions were hungry, and clearly more than a few wanted to put their hands up for the first test. Gatland now has a quite nice problem - who to pick. As for the Maori, well, less said the better. In that these guys were so strong on paper, former All Blacks, fringe All Blacks, Super players, they have no excuses for playing like rank amateurs. The Barbarians played with more heart and cohesion.
Oh yes, and Marshall and Johnson can go fuck themselves. The fellating of the Lions players all game was actually sickening - Hansen and Co will be thoughtful, but I doubt very much scared at what they saw from the opposition. I think they would be far more horrified at what they saw from some of their own. Methinks Dave Rennie will be spitting tacks at how Messam, Lowe, DMac, TKB etc played. Will be very interesting to see the make up of the Chiefs team next week.
@Mokey Dave Rennie the super coach?
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DMac will be just fine for the chiefs at 10, coz he almost certainly won't be playing behind a pack that is going backwards...
@Gunner said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
DMac will be just fine for the chiefs at 10, coz he almost certainly won't be playing behind a pack that is going backwards...
And he'll have Colin Cooper working out the game plan for him. No wait....
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Those chiefs legends were slightly detrimental to the MAB's cause.
Even Ngatai wasn't his usual self, looked short of a gallop. Lowe and Messam just looked like they were playing drunk. What the hell was up with Lowe kicking the ball everytime he got it, even in space on attack? And accurate kicking at that...
@Bones said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
Those chiefs legends were slightly detrimental to the MAB's cause.
Even Ngatai wasn't his usual self, looked short of a gallop. Lowe and Messam just looked like they were playing drunk. What the hell was up with Lowe kicking the ball everytime he got it, even in space on attack? And accurate kicking at that...
Those kicks were driving me mental. Either out on the full, or straight to a Lions player, giving him space to work up a gallop. Dire.
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@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
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@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
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@antipodean said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@No-Quarter said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
Not smart from TKB but fucking Murray put his hands on the ball.
The ball has to be out. It's not enough he has his hands on it. Tawera should know that.
Right, I was under the impression that once the HB puts hands on it then it is out. Fair enough.
@No-Quarter said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@antipodean said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@No-Quarter said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
Not smart from TKB but fucking Murray put his hands on the ball.
The ball has to be out. It's not enough he has his hands on it. Tawera should know that.
Right, I was under the impression that once the HB puts hands on it then it is out. Fair enough.
That may even be the law, but ref guidelines are it is out when HB picks up ball. Rubbish interpretation.
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@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
@Stargazer More I see of DMac for Chiefs - the more I think he is best suited to FB.... where he is afforded the time and space to conjure up those devastating runs or sleight of hand plays....
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@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
Phew, YC, not red.
Tough situation when player dips head and shoulder. Any arm and it's a head high. Was he supposed to spring back out of the way? YC fair under current interpretations.
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@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
You have to wonder why they didn't start with that combination
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@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
I believe it was at the insistence of @Crucial
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@Crash if they had a proper 7 out there...
@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Crash if they had a proper 7 out there...
Like Pryor?
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@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
Cooper's. In the post-match interview he sees him as a 10. Says his skillset suits that position.
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@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
Cooper's. In the post-match interview he sees him as a 10. Says his skillset suits that position.
@antipodean said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
So, bring on West; send DMac to fullback, Lowe to the left wing, and Rieko to 13.
That would have been the obvious starting configuration.
The question is, did they start Dmac at 10 at the request of Hansen and co? Or was this Cooper's bright idea?
Cooper's. In the post-match interview he sees him as a 10. Says his skillset suits that position.
Well we didn't see any of that tonight
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@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Crash if they had a proper 7 out there...
Like Pryor?
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Crash if they had a proper 7 out there...
Like Pryor?
He wasn't until the 70th minute...certainly woulda been a sight better 7 than Dixon
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@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Crash if they had a proper 7 out there...
Like Pryor?
He wasn't until the 70th minute...certainly woulda been a sight better 7 than Dixon
@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@pakman said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
@Crash if they had a proper 7 out there...
Like Pryor?
He wasn't until the 70th minute...certainly woulda been a sight better 7 than Dixon
Looked a better balance once he came on. Wasn't hard to improve over Messam...
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Thank fuck they yanked North.
Blown his chance.
@MiketheSnow said in Māori All Blacks vs British and Irish Lions:
Thank fuck they yanked North.
Blown his chance.
McGeechan agrees and selected Daly as a test starter. I doubt it though.
