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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by taniwharugby
    #169

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Black Squad for Rugby Championship:

    @taniwharugby said in All Black Squad for Rugby Championship:

    @ACT-Crusader I think the fact that the ban was handed down, and then only last week they decided to make a decision on whether the game of 3 halves constituted a real game was the issue.

    Pretty sure the schedule of matches that SBW may have been eleigible to play in would have been known at the time of the ban, therefore to turn around weeks later and make decisions about the games he may have played in, is IMO incompetence.

    There's a few assumptions in there TR.

    Obviously it was a disputed issue around the games. That doesn't seem that unusual to me when one of those is this game of three halves which has more of a practice feel to it than anything. Now the status of that game appears to have been reviewed and given official status for the purposes of sanctions etc.

    Assumptions of competence when making the decision on how many games to ban him for, one would assume they would have access to a schedule of a game and therefore use this to determine which he will be ineligible to play in due to the ban, or did the ones making the ban make the assumption on the game of three halves and its relevance to the ban?

    Again, my only assumption is one of competence in the original decision, maybe bans need to be for set weeks or they produce a list of games they are ineligible to play given match schedules are usually months in advance

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Black Squad for Rugby Championship:

    Foster makes an interesting point

    Ironically, if someone gets red-carded in this particular match they will have to go through a judiciary hearing as they would in any other competitive match. I think it's hypocritical to say that one player can be suspended for an illegal act in a match, but another player can't use that match to live out a suspension

    This. All that needs to be said.

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    #171

    @Tim said in All Black Squad for Rugby Championship:

    "Damian is a very good rugby player. At the moment there is no clear and obvious third 10 and we know Waikato are going to play him at 10 which will be great and he's a goal kicker as well and a good one and he's been in fine form at 15.

    "If you look beyond today and the World Cup he could be someone we get going at 10 and then maybe give him some training time, not so much game-time, at nine so he could be your third nine. He's got a big part to play in the All Blacks over the next few years there's no doubt about that."

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11898097

    I reckon with dmac they see a possibility to unlock a bit of a
    puzzle they have right now with BBarrett,
    I think with bb their preference now would be to leave him at 10 for the 80 minutes , and to have a 10 on the bench that plays nowhere else would mean leaving him there getting splinters in his arse .
    A utility 10 that could come on and provide impact in another position such as FB and cover 10 in the case of injury would be better for balance , And are hoping they can develop him into being that player .

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    #172

    The problem with having utility players is you want them to play those positions at a lower level. I reckon Ben Smith would be a good centre if he played there all season for the Highlanders, but why would the Highlanders do that?

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Black Squad for Rugby Championship:

    @Crucial said in All Black Squad for Rugby Championship:

    Last years squad for TRC was 32. This training squad is 34. A couple of Crusaders to slot back in as well.
    A possible final squad... (33 with an extra outside back to cover Bender's departure)

    All Blacks squad for two-day camp:
    Forwards
    Hookers: Dane Coles, Nathan Harris. +Codie Taylor

    Props: Kane Hames, Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen and Ofa Tu'ungafasi. + Crockett, Franks, Moody

    Locks: Dominic Bird, Tom Franklin, Brodie Retallick and Patrick Tuipulotu. + Romano, Whitelock, Barrett

    Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane, Jerome Kaino, Ardie Savea and Liam Squire. +Read

    Backs

    Halfbacks: Tawera Kerr-Barlow, TJ Perenara and Aaron Smith.

    First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie and Lima Sopoaga.

    Midfielders: Richard Buckman, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Charlie Ngatai, Sonny Bill Williams. +Crotty

    Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Julian Savea, Ben Smith. +Dagg

    I'd like to see the AB selectors back themselves to get Tuipolotou and Ioane up to speed. Just think Romano as a 4th lock is a bit meh. Doesn't le the side down, but he has a ceiling. I'm quite underwhelmed by Naholo these days also. Dagg, Smith, Barrett, Ioane & NMS for mine.

    Super rugby over, and only area I can see changing from Crucial team is that I don't think DMac will make it, allowing either NMS or the bus to join.

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    #175

    @pakman If it's either or I think I'll take NMS. Bus is in a bad place right now

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    replied to pakman on last edited by Stargazer
    #176

    @pakman I'd prefer Tamanivalu on the wing after seeing him play so well in that position all SR season.

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    #177

    he looked quicker than I thought he was too recently, especially this morning

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    #178

    Having watched Crotty play so well at 2nd Five Eight, I am wondering if it is a good idea to have him pushed to outside centre to accomodate SBW. Yes, their combination worked well during the first test vs the BIL, but I am more and more inclined that a midfield with Crotty standing next to BB would be better. I would give Goodhue the 13 jersey.

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    #179

    @cgrant SBW and Crotty look the goods and probably the first choice combo when fit and not suspended.

    Crotty's game is suited to either 12 or 13 in my view.

    ALB at 13 with either SBW or Crotty at 12 also has most bases covered.

    Laumape in the mix now and I don't think we need to be rushing Goodhue just yet.

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  • SiamS Offline
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    #180

    Yeah no need for Goodhue yet but I can see a whole generation speaking of Barrett (Jordan) and Goodhue in the same vain as Osborne and Robertson, Taylor and Stanley, Little and Bunce or Nonu and Smith

    fingers crossed anyway

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    #181

    Squad is being announced at 3.30pm nz time - there will be a live stream on the ABs fb site.

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    #182

    Right now I'd love to see what Laumape and Crotty could do - good on him for showing his class recently. Crotty would be the first midfield name on the sheet now.

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    #183

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    #184

    No Julian Savea or Matt Todd.

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    #185

    Interesting selections.

    Savea chopped.

    Only two 10's, assume Jordie covers at a pinch.

    5 outside backs.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #186

    Looks fairly predictable. Vaea Fifita the "bolter" to the extent there is one - though that was fairly telegraphed. Nepo replaces Charlie - that's no surprise, question of whether he or Ofa sits on the bench, assuming Owen Franks is fit to play.

    Jules out, NMS in.

    They've made no call on the third first five - probably concluding that whomever the third choice would be (presumably DMac or Mo'unga) will be better off playing Mitre10 Cup than hanging around an AB camp. Call in one if they need him.

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    #187

    Happy birthday Julian..

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    #188

    @Virgil Ouch. Who would have seen this coming a couple years back. Looked like he was going to cruise to the try scoring record. May not happen now. Anyone know how long he is contracted for? No doubt there is probably an out-clause anyway.

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