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AB's v Wales

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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @mikethesnow Interesting view on the new 60 caps rule intended to bring more ex-pat Welshmen back to the regions. This from Wayne Pivac of the Scarlets in regard to Ross Moriarty.

    "Pivac said Moriarty would only add to the number of players the region loses to international duty.

    "Barclay is always away at this time of the year, do you bring in another one? The short answer to that is no. You get someone for this important period of time," Pivac added.

    "We can't have 16 or 17 players away for half the season, otherwise we will have this fantastic team who will never be in the play-offs."

    The law of unintended consequences perhaps?

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    @catogrande said in AB's v Wales:

    @mikethesnow Interesting view on the new 60 caps rule intended to bring more ex-pat Welshmen back to the regions. This from Wayne Pivac of the Scarlets in regard to Ross Moriarty.

    "Pivac said Moriarty would only add to the number of players the region loses to international duty.

    "Barclay is always away at this time of the year, do you bring in another one? The short answer to that is no. You get someone for this important period of time," Pivac added.

    "We can't have 16 or 17 players away for half the season, otherwise we will have this fantastic team who will never be in the play-offs."

    The law of unintended consequences perhaps?

    That's why David Lyons is a legend at Llanelli, and the decision to call up Hadley Parkes to the Welsh squad is nonsense.

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      The alternative view is if these Welsh qualified, Wales squad standard players are back in Wales then Barclay isn't needed.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        The alternative view is if these Welsh qualified, Wales squad standard players are back in Wales then Barclay isn't needed.

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        @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

        The alternative view is if these Welsh qualified, Wales squad standard players are back in Wales then Barclay isn't needed.

        Yeah I can see that but it seems Pivac is saying "we had this issue with Barclay and now he's going do we want the same problem with Moriarty".

        I guess the feeling is that, assuming a Wales squad of 35, even if the number was spread equally between the regions that would still amount to 8.75 players being lost from your regional squad each Autumn and 6N. Now if you're a successful region, that number is likely to increase.

        Quarts and pint pots?

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          True.

          The solution is having no league matches during the international window / a non-conflicting rugby calendar

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            True.

            The solution is having no league matches during the international window / a non-conflicting rugby calendar

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            @mikethesnow Good luck with that!

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              I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
              Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
              Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

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                @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

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                  Any news on Rieko Ioane’s shoulder injury?

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                    I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                    Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                    Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                    It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                    In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

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                    @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                    @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                    I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                    Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                    Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                    It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                    In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                    What stadium attacks?

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Any news on Rieko Ioane’s shoulder injury?

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                      @tim thought it had been confirmed he was unavailable??

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @tim thought it had been confirmed he was unavailable??

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                        @taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                          @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                          I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                          Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                          Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                          It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                          In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                          What stadium attacks?

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                          @crucial There was an attempt at Stade de France last year.

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                            @taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?

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                            @tim I get the sense it's nothing major - he's still in the gym training on the bike etc.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                              @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                              I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                              Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                              Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                              It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                              In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                              What stadium attacks?

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                              @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                              @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                              @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                              I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                              Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                              Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                              It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                              In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                              What stadium attacks?

                              Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris

                              How many more do you want?

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?

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                                @tim said in AB's v Wales:

                                @taniwharugby Yep, but what are the details, and how long will be out?

                                Have had that injury: rotator cuff tear. He won't be able to do any pressing exercises for a month or two and will have to rehab with targeted rotator cuff exercises. Key is to protect injury whilst it's healing.

                                The $64,000 question is how bad the tear is. Based on my experience one can get back most of the strength (e.g. bench and shoulder presses) over six months without an operation. However, I've been left with significant weakness in a particular range of movement (opening a stiff umbrella can be tricky), so depending on severity there would be an argument for surgery, which would mean out for three to six months, but then ought to be completely right.

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                  @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                  @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                  I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                                  Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                                  Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                                  It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                                  In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                                  What stadium attacks?

                                  Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris

                                  How many more do you want?

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                                  @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                  @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                  @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                  @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                  I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                                  Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                                  Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                                  It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                                  In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                                  What stadium attacks?

                                  Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris

                                  How many more do you want?

                                  I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
                                  I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
                                  Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.

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                                    Checks watch. 10am UK time

                                    Checks calendar. Thursday

                                    Genuine question: when is the team named?

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                      I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                                      Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                                      Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                                      It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                                      In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                                      What stadium attacks?

                                      Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris

                                      How many more do you want?

                                      I concede that I forgot that Paris involved someone trying to get into the ground with something.
                                      I just think that on balance, 100s of 1000s of people attend sports and group events every day. The risk level doesn't need to be mitigated so far as to impede people from actually getting in IMO. Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
                                      Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.

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                                      @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @mikethesnow said in AB's v Wales:

                                      @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

                                      I see that the stadium management at Cardiff are asking people to arrive 2 hours before kick off so they can process everyone through security.
                                      Apparently at the Oz game punters missed half the game.
                                      Funny, because at Edinburgh there was no searching done at all. Easy in, easy out.

                                      It was always a badge of honour / selling point that pub to seat took about 15 mins.

                                      In light of the stadium attacks around the world and British Royals in attendance, adequate security measures seem sensible to me.

                                      What stadium attacks?

                                      Couple in the US, Manchester, Paris

                                      How many more do you want?

                                      ... Another example of shitbags actually winning by eroding our way of life.
                                      Even airport security realised fairly quickly that there needs to be a risk balance. Intelligence and targeted searching rather than monkeys searching everyone.

                                      This is so right. If it becomes something of a tick box exercise the level of vigilance is bound to drop. We were "searched" on entering Twickenham last week and to a man the searchers were just going through the motions. Just a cursory swipe of everyone's coats. Despite this lackadaisical attitude the process still took time and pissed people off.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        Checks watch. 10am UK time

                                        Checks calendar. Thursday

                                        Genuine question: when is the team named?

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                                        @booboo said in AB's v Wales:

                                        Checks watch. 10am UK time

                                        Checks calendar. Thursday

                                        Genuine question: when is the team named?

                                        5 ayem U.K. Time. Gives Read a chance to participate in Captain's run.

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                                          WALES TEAM TO PLAY NEW ZEALAND
                                          (Saturday 25 November KO 17.15)

                                          Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (72 Caps)
                                          Hallam Amos (Dragons) (13 Caps)
                                          Scott Williams (Scarlets) (49 Caps)
                                          Owen Williams (Gloucester) (2 Caps)
                                          Steff Evans (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
                                          Dan Biggar (Ospreys) (58 Caps)
                                          Rhys Webb (Ospreys) (29 Caps);

                                          1. Rob Evans (Scarlets) (18 Caps)
                                          2. Ken Owens (Scarlets) (51 Caps)
                                          3. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (25 Caps)
                                          4. Jake Ball (Scarlets) (27 Caps)
                                          5. Alun Wyn Jones (CAPT) (Ospreys) (111 Caps)
                                          6. Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (11 Caps)
                                          7. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues) (5 Caps)
                                          8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath) (68 Caps)

                                          REPLACEMENTS:
                                          16. Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues) (6 Caps)
                                          17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
                                          18. Leon Brown (Dragons) (2 Caps)
                                          19. Cory Hill (Dragons) (8 Caps)
                                          20. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (51 Caps)
                                          21. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (26 Caps)
                                          22. Rhys Priestland (Bath) (49 Caps)
                                          23. Jamie Roberts (Harlequins) (93 Caps)

                                          Best we can do I guess considering the squad and injuries.

                                          Would have had Watkin instead of Roberts.

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