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  • RapidoR Offline
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    I loved this article by Dylan Cleaver.

    About the 1992 NZ Schoolboys team that included 10 guys who played test rugby for NZ including Carlos Spencer et all & 2 of the best ever in Lomu & Jeff Wilson. Plus 2 guys who played test rugby for Samoa.

    The article is about the guys 'who didn't make it", fascinating. The amateur and semi-pro paths some of them took, the bad luck, the options etc

    Interesting how many of them rated Todd Miller so highly. I'd first seen/heard of Todd Miller when he played for NZ schoolboys as a 15 year old 2 years earlier and scored a great solo try in a rare televised game. Then he disappeared for a few years doing mormon stuff, before re-appearing at NPC level for Waikato.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/sport/the-greatest-rugby-team-you-never-saw-the-nearly-men/

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    Yep, enjoyed that. Definitely a good read.

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    @taniwharugby That was choice, cheers!

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    This isn't a rugby read, is a Vietnam War read.

    Rugby connection is former Counties Manukau and Fiji (and Blues assistant) coach Mac MacCallion was part of this 6 man SAS patrol, just a teenager at the time with the cliched "lied about his true age ..." thing.

    I met Bill Taare, fine man, glad for him to get recognition.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/99283095/forgotten-sas-vietnam-war-hero-denied-medal

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    The walrus column today - I think it's worth a read as he raises many a point about the state if the game

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/stephen-jones-rugby-needs-to-put-players-and-fans-ahead-of-financial-greed-pwd5z2hgc

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    @majorrage said in Good Rugby Reads:

    The walrus column today - I think it's worth a read as he raises many a point about the state if the game

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/stephen-jones-rugby-needs-to-put-players-and-fans-ahead-of-financial-greed-pwd5z2hgc

    While you’re at it please post your username and password for the times site. We’d be much obliged. Cheers

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    You can register and get 2 free articles a week

    Should pop up when you open it

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    It’s probably better to cut and paste his bloviating diatribes, if he get clicks it makes his employer think he’s worth keeping on

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    Mac was a fine player in his day as well. Good Manurewa club man, hard arse flanker, NZ Maori rep (captain as well).

    Here's another story related to the one above.

    http://nzh.tw/11695600

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    @rapido said in Good Rugby Reads:

    This isn't a rugby read, is a Vietnam War read.

    Rugby connection is former Counties Manukau and Fiji (and Blues assistant) coach Mac MacCallion was part of this 6 man SAS patrol, just a teenager at the time with the cliched "lied about his true age ..." thing.

    I met Bill Taare, fine man, glad for him to get recognition.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/99283095/forgotten-sas-vietnam-war-hero-denied-medal

    Peter Fatialofa had one of the better Rugby books I've read and he said he was terrified when he had to play against Mac McCallion ( although he was quoted as well and said he was scared of Fats too )

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    @crucial said in Good Rugby Reads:

    Mac was a fine player in his day as well. Good Manurewa club man, hard arse flanker, NZ Maori rep (captain as well).

    Here's another story related to the one above.

    http://nzh.tw/11695600

    EDIT: changed my post re: Mac's age..
    On Wiki Mac was born 1950, so he joined army in 1964 as a ;17 year old' but was actually 14. Was aged 17 when he joined SAS soldier, and aged 19 at the tie of this incident.

    A 2 hour fighting withdrawal while carrying their comrade.

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    Sounds like there were two Mac McCallions. The guy in the herald article looks too nice to be the former counties coach.

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    @mikedogz said in Good Rugby Reads:

    Sounds like there were two Mac McCallions. The guy in the herald article looks too nice to be the former counties coach.

    Yep definitely a different bloke. Amazing coincidence though.

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    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/two-aussies-three-games-beer-fuelled-roadtrip-new-zealand-provincial-rugby

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    @kiwimurph saw that on Twitter this morning, cool story!

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    @kiwimurph Great story by Sumo!

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    @mn5 said in Good Rugby Reads:

    @mikedogz said in Good Rugby Reads:

    Sounds like there were two Mac McCallions. The guy in the herald article looks too nice to be the former counties coach.

    Yep definitely a different bloke. Amazing coincidence though.

    Turns out the other guy is Wayne McCallion, his brother.

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    https://www.amazon.com/World-Conflict-Global-Battle-Supremacy/dp/1925635740

    Excellent book, one of the (if not the) best rugby book I've read.

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    @nzzp said in Good Rugby Reads:

    Sumo Stevenson is rapidly becoming my favourite sports writer and commentator. What a top bloke. Just go and read this

    http://thespinoff.co.nz/featured/02-11-2016/48-hours-drinking-with-rugbys-greatest-losers/

    Superb. Cheers.

    That is awesome , I would love to do that.

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