RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@sparky One of the most impressive things in that movement was A Smith line he ran after his pass. He made a direct line to where Reece would likely be if he made a break, turns out he did and Smith was in the perfect place to take a pass and link to Savea. Its those little things that make the difference.
Also loved how quickly he unloaded to Ardie. Knows Ardie is the better carrier, but even more, knows he is better off supporting and clearing the ball quickly from the next ruck.
I read someone saying Ardie is this rwcs Kaino, that’s pretty high praise
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@sparky One of the most impressive things in that movement was A Smith line he ran after his pass. He made a direct line to where Reece would likely be if he made a break, turns out he did and Smith was in the perfect place to take a pass and link to Savea. Its those little things that make the difference.
Also loved how quickly he unloaded to Ardie. Knows Ardie is the better carrier, but even more, knows he is better off supporting and clearing the ball quickly from the next ruck.
I read someone saying Ardie is this rwcs Kaino, that’s pretty high praise
He is one of those really frustrating players.
In that, whenever you see him fight for every single inch of ground, with immense leg drive , on every single carry or defensive play, you're reminded how frustrating it is that all our other more gifted athletes don't do the same.
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I see some are having a moan about the 'disrespect' shown during the Haka by opposition fans.
Fark some people are so precious they need to pull their farking heads in.
It is sport, fans can react how they like.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
I see some are having a moan about the 'disrespect' shown during the Haka by opposition fans.
Fark some people are so precious they need to pull their farking heads in.
It is sport, fans can react how they like.
Reactions Update: No singing during the Tongan Sipi Tau, singing before but stopped when it was being done.
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Hi all,
It’s funny how some things never change, back in the fern for the first time in a long hiatus and all the usual suspects are still active... respect.
Anyhoo tough game and happy to have that out of the way with a win. South Africa were impressive, had arguably the wrong tactics in the first half when they had decent ball, but will happily take that.
Scott Barrett was immense early on and Ardie was a machine and George Bridge reminds me of a young Ben Smith/Cory Jane with his aerial nouse.
For any if the foreign media/coaches complaining about rough calls, clearly Garces missed a lot from both sides, we just converted more of the opportunities we had even with little early ball and am glad the debarkle surrounding Sam Cane HIA didn’t cost us.
Saying all that the Boks weren’t bad when they opened up and Kolbe had fricken spiders on him. If they actually decide to play attacking rugby, we may see them later in the comp.
Great win, still have work ons, which we want including our scum and line out. I know it was extravagant but would love to see them try the move with the throw to Reece again, if executed that would have really created gaps.
Lastly, I had the team leaked via a friend the night before, I called BS but for the first time ever this tip was spot on. It still could have been luck, but if correct they said Retallick could have played if required. Expect to see him back soon then.
Cheers all, thanks for the views, loving it sitting in an airport.
@bayimports welcome back. Does the timing of your return have anything to do with a certain 20+ win against the Taniwha today
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Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
Yeah, we did miss an in form Rieko on the left, he offers a lot more on attack and is as good defensively. Hope they try and play him into some form in the next 3 games.
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Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
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@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
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@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@sparky One of the most impressive things in that movement was A Smith line he ran after his pass. He made a direct line to where Reece would likely be if he made a break, turns out he did and Smith was in the perfect place to take a pass and link to Savea. Its those little things that make the difference.
Also loved how quickly he unloaded to Ardie. Knows Ardie is the better carrier, but even more, knows he is better off supporting and clearing the ball quickly from the next ruck.
I read someone saying Ardie is this rwcs Kaino, that’s pretty high praise
He is one of those really frustrating players.
In that, whenever you see him fight for every single inch of ground, with immense leg drive , on every single carry or defensive play, you're reminded how frustrating it is that all our other more gifted athletes don't do the same.
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@sparky One of the most impressive things in that movement was A Smith line he ran after his pass. He made a direct line to where Reece would likely be if he made a break, turns out he did and Smith was in the perfect place to take a pass and link to Savea. Its those little things that make the difference.
Also loved how quickly he unloaded to Ardie. Knows Ardie is the better carrier, but even more, knows he is better off supporting and clearing the ball quickly from the next ruck.
I read someone saying Ardie is this rwcs Kaino, that’s pretty high praise
He is one of those really frustrating players.
In that, whenever you see him fight for every single inch of ground, with immense leg drive , on every single carry or defensive play, you're reminded how frustrating it is that all our other more gifted athletes don't do the same.
Ardie is reminding me a bit of the young Iceman, with less effective tackling.
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@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
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@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
That's because Faf likes to stand in our backline when we have the ball
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
That's because Faf likes to stand in our backline when we have the ball
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
That's because Faf likes to stand in our backline when we have the ball
He’s rarely penalised for it so must be doing something right. Other than that blatant one when it was still under Read’s feet. But he’s very effective at it. He might just have one of those cloaks...
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@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
@pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
Technically speaking your shoulders should be no lower than your hips, and all binds should be as long as possible to keep arms straight.
In practice? Whatever you can get away with. Moody trends to bind short, so because the THP binds on the outside, his elbow is more likely to point down.
There was really only one scrum decision I felt was rough on the boks, and it was actually Nepo being flat on his face, overextended, which was called a reset.
Bok scrum much better with Snyman on.
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Damo same principle - and if memory serves, no more rucks were formed in a way that puts steph du toit offside.
I think there was a ruck formed prior to the pass which was intercepted.
I am agnostic as to whether it was offside or not. I reckon an AB may have ran 5m with the ball and/or we had reached the advantage line prior to the intercept. SDT was retreating. It looked really bad, but ref might have been right to let it go.
@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Damo same principle - and if memory serves, no more rucks were formed in a way that puts steph du toit offside.
I think there was a ruck formed prior to the pass which was intercepted.
I am agnostic as to whether it was offside or not. I reckon an AB may have ran 5m with the ball and/or we had reached the advantage line prior to the intercept. SDT was retreating. It looked really bad, but ref might have been right to let it go.
UK feed didn't allow any persepective on where PSDT was in retreat. Cut straight to close up of ruck. Coverage overall pretty average.
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@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
BOOOM!
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/1175584615408553984?s=20
Pass from Smith would be called forward by some.
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@sparky
Top rated comment on that highlight claims Reece's pass to Smith was forward. Dummies don't even know backward from the hand = not forward.@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@sparky
Top rated comment on that highlight claims Reece's pass to Smith was forward. Dummies don't even know backward from the hand = not forward.Not a clear cut position. Just how things tend to be reffed nowadays. Once upon a time backwards WAS backwards..
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@pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
Technically speaking your shoulders should be no lower than your hips, and all binds should be as long as possible to keep arms straight.
In practice? Whatever you can get away with. Moody trends to bind short, so because the THP binds on the outside, his elbow is more likely to point down.
There was really only one scrum decision I felt was rough on the boks, and it was actually Nepo being flat on his face, overextended, which was called a reset.
Bok scrum much better with Snyman on.
@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
Technically speaking your shoulders should be no lower than your hips, and all binds should be as long as possible to keep arms straight.
In practice? Whatever you can get away with. Moody trends to bind short, so because the THP binds on the outside, his elbow is more likely to point down.
There was really only one scrum decision I felt was rough on the boks, and it was actually Nepo being flat on his face, overextended, which was called a reset.
Bok scrum much better with Snyman on.
Didn't notice Nepo, but agree regarding rest. Moody's elbow went down two or more times. Boks were trying to point this out to ref. At least one of those Malherbe pulled Moody's arm down. And when Garcies went and stood on that side he penalised them.
Replacement props looked OK/good until Malherbe came back and Snyman on. Problems after that.
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@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
Really, I thought he was pretty solid. I'll have to rewatch. I love the lines he runs in support, genuine pace and smarts. He's obviously more Howlett than Rokocoko, but I think he did enough to earn his spot for the big dance in the QF
I get the sense that many here are wishing for Bridge and Reece to have shockers so they can say “I told you so!”. Feel much better having Bridge under high ball than Rieko. That said how good was Kolbe? So great to see little outside backs can still thrive in test rugby. Has to be form winger in the world. Unbelievable under high ball, great defense and electrifying speed and footwork.
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Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):
Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
I totally agree. Rieko is not yet a "Rieko who ?".
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For George Bridge's try, before BB received te pass, Bridge had his arm straight out indicating BB to take the gap. Great play.
The second try was caused by ALB spotting that Marx had drifted too far over to him on the right, leaving a spot behind him-and he was too bulky to change course.
Again, lovely play.
