Possible All Blacks 2020
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I can’t see how he won’t be selected, at least for the end of year tour as the apprentice, but I suspect as a full playing member of the team - especially because I have my doubts about Jacobson’s return.
He’s not too young - I think both McCaw and Cane were already playing AB rugby at his age, and he’s got the tools and enough size to be a good 8.
We really do have plenty of young loosie talent around. If we had two good locks coming through, I’d feel really confident for the ABs, but hopefully we can keep BBBR and Patty going long enough for another couple to come through.
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@Stargazer yep. Grace, Cane Sotutu could be a devastating trio if the young fellas can keep it up at test level. Savea off the bench for the nail in the coffin.
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
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Foster and Plumtree will want both Cane and Savea in their starting XV so that means finding another loose forward who complements them. The first part of that equation is deciding if Ardie moves to no.8 or Cane could be used as a 6. That 3rd player will need to be a good option in the lineout too.
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Foster and Plumtree will want both Cane and Savea in their starting XV so that means finding another loose forward who complements them. The first part of that equation is deciding if Ardie moves to no.8 or Cane could be used as a 6. That 3rd player will need to be a good option in the lineout too.
@Bovidae said in Blues v Lions:
Foster and Plumtree will want both Cane and Savea in their starting XV so that means finding another loose forward who complements them. The first part of that equation is deciding if Ardie moves to no.8 or Cane could be used as a 6. That 3rd player will need to be a good option in the lineout too.
I can see Ardie being the So’oialo-like number 8 in a back row with Cane and one other. The question become who is the bruiser playing at 6 to balance out that loose trio?
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@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
@Canes4life said in Blues v Lions:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Yeah he's playing fucken awesome right now. Great call. He's like waaaay better than our best loose forward if you're a canes fan.
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@Canes4life said in Blues v Lions:
@Bones lol Savea starts before any of those three. Especially on last year's form, he was arguably the best player in the world.
Yeah he's playing fucken awesome right now. Great call. He's like waaaay better than our best loose forward if you're a canes fan.
@Bones you have Savea off the bench which indicates you wouldn't have him in your starting trio. It's not because I'm a Canes fan, it's because he's blatantly too good to leave out. A bit strange that you can't see that.
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@Bones you have Savea off the bench which indicates you wouldn't have him in your starting trio. It's not because I'm a Canes fan, it's because he's blatantly too good to leave out. A bit strange that you can't see that.
@Canes4life I thought he didn't want to be an All Black anymore? Surely that takes care of itself?
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@Bones you have Savea off the bench which indicates you wouldn't have him in your starting trio. It's not because I'm a Canes fan, it's because he's blatantly too good to leave out. A bit strange that you can't see that.
@Canes4life oh wait, he's gone from our best loosie to just blatantly too good to leave out? You're right, his form right now really doesn't warrant a bench spot. He can watch from the stands while Papalii rides the pine.
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@Duluth said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Dude! Everytime I see you post something and the little avatar, on a smallish screen, it looks as though your mascot is facepalming, which seems very apt in this climate we are in
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@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie. -
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.True. It is the logic used to get there that is often screwy though. Discarding players then supplanting them with someone with the same weakness.
I don't see Aumua standing out enough ahead of others. I don't see Bridge doing anything to warrant holding his place. Ennor? Hasn't stepped up yet. -
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.looks shit
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@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.True. It is the logic used to get there that is often screwy though. Discarding players then supplanting them with someone with the same weakness.
I don't see Aumua standing out enough ahead of others. I don't see Bridge doing anything to warrant holding his place. Ennor? Hasn't stepped up yet.@Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.True. It is the logic used to get there that is often screwy though. Discarding players then supplanting them with someone with the same weakness.
I don't see Aumua standing out enough ahead of others. I don't see Bridge doing anything to warrant holding his place. Ennor? Hasn't stepped up yet.I wonder in some close calls he's gone for players that are part of the ABs rest policy (Papalii, Ennor)
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@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020: Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii. Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue, Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Damian McKenzie.@KiwiMurph said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
@Duluth I think that squad at the bottom of the article will be pretty close to mark.
Possible All Blacks squad for 2020:
Forwards: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Asafo Aumua, Joe Moody, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Nepo Lauala, Atu Moli, Tyrel Lomax, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu,
Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu,Cullen Grace, Dalton Papalii.Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber, Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Ngani Laumape, Jack Goodhue,
Braydon Ennor, Jordie Barrett,George Bridge, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane,Damian McKenzie.Plenty of room in the squad.
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Back to the same old arguments about DMac eh?
The guy may not be perfect but to succeed in tests against Tier 1 countries these days you have to have something 'unusual'. Some piece of vision that unlocks a defence. It may only happen once in a game, but that can be enough. You can train how to mitigate mistakes (as long as they aren't horrendous).That try DMac setup (then was handed) against the Sumwolves is a good case. Most will have seen the try highlight here at 2:08
But if you watch from another angle (sadly can't find on youtube) he comes on that line from a long way back. His vision was that the Wolves were leaving enough of a gap between channels 1 and 2 that he could squeeze through if he timed his run and collected the pass. That could have easily ended up in a knock on and everyone would have bagged him for fucking up an attacking position but as it came off it was one of the best line runs of the season.
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Back to the same old arguments about DMac eh?
The guy may not be perfect but to succeed in tests against Tier 1 countries these days you have to have something 'unusual'. Some piece of vision that unlocks a defence. It may only happen once in a game, but that can be enough. You can train how to mitigate mistakes (as long as they aren't horrendous).That try DMac setup (then was handed) against the Sumwolves is a good case. Most will have seen the try highlight here at 2:08
But if you watch from another angle (sadly can't find on youtube) he comes on that line from a long way back. His vision was that the Wolves were leaving enough of a gap between channels 1 and 2 that he could squeeze through if he timed his run and collected the pass. That could have easily ended up in a knock on and everyone would have bagged him for fucking up an attacking position but as it came off it was one of the best line runs of the season.
@Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:
Back to the same old arguments about DMac eh?
The guy may not be perfect but to succeed in tests against Tier 1 countries these days you have to have something 'unusual'. Some piece of vision that unlocks a defence. It may only happen once in a game, but that can be enough. You can train how to mitigate mistakes (as long as they aren't horrendous).That try DMac setup (then was handed) against the Sumwolves is a good case. Most will have seen the try highlight here at 2:08
But if you watch from another angle (sadly can't find on youtube) he comes on that line from a long way back. His vision was that the Wolves were leaving enough of a gap between channels 1 and 2 that he could squeeze through if he timed his run and collected the pass. That could have easily ended up in a knock on and everyone would have bagged him for fucking up an attacking position but as it came off it was one of the best line runs of the season.
Your evidence for including him in the Test sqaud is scoring a try against the Sunwolves?
