All Blacks 2021
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@kirwan My comment in my previous post was clearly a reaction to the bolded bit and not to the rest of your post, where you indeed use the acronym IMO. Anyway, you'll no doubt disagree with this also. That's fine.
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan My comment in my previous post was clearly a reaction to the bolded bit and not to the rest of your post, where you indeed use the acronym IMO. Anyway, you'll no doubt disagree with this also. That's fine.
Oh, you didn't like me treating your opinion as an opinion, not a fact? Hilarious.
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The All Blacks are in Europe ahead of an action-packed Tudor Northern Tour, which kicks off against Wales in Cardiff this weekend.
They then take on Italy in Rome and Ireland in Dublin before wrapping up the tour against France in Paris. In New Zealand you’ll be able to watch all the action live and exclusive on Sky Sport NZ.Check out the broadcast guide below to find out how and where to watch the All Blacks in action on the Tudor Northern Tour.
The Wales Test match from Principality Stadium in Cardiff kicks off at 5.15pm on Saturday 30 October (local time) and Sunday 31 October at 5.15am NZT.
New Zealand - All games will be live on Sky Sport 1, Sky Go and Sky Sport Now.
Australia - Stan Sport & beIN Sports
Sub Saharan Africa - SuperSport
South America, Central America & Carribbean - ESPN Sur
Pacific Islands/PNG - Digicel
UK - Amazon (Prime Video)
Ireland - Channel 4 + RTE
Spain - Telefonica/Movistar+
Italy - TBC (to be confirmed)
Portugal - Sport TV
France - beIN Sports + L’Equipe
Scandinavia + Baltics - NENT
Netherlands - Ziggo
Georgia - Rugby TV
Czech Republic - Nova TV
Middle East/North Africa - beIN Sports + Premier Sports
Japan - WOWOW
Pan-Asia - Premier Sports
USA - Flo Sports
Canada - DAZN -
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan My comment in my previous post was clearly a reaction to the bolded bit and not to the rest of your post, where you indeed use the acronym IMO. Anyway, you'll no doubt disagree with this also. That's fine.
Oh, you didn't like me treating your opinion as an opinion, not a fact? Hilarious.
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@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
Haha, twisting words again. You are the one having trouble accepting when people disagree with you, not me. You always want the last word. But go on, respond again and you'll have it.
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
You see, now you're wording your opinion as an opinion, and not as a fact like you did earlier. Well done. You're learning. Do you want a stamp with that?
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How long have you two been dating?
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
Haha, twisting words again. You are the one having trouble accepting when people disagree with you, not me. You always want the last word. But go on, respond again and you'll have it.
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
You see, now you're wording your opinion as an opinion, and not as a fact like you did earlier. Well done. You're learning. Do you want a stamp with that?
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
Haha, twisting words again. You are the one having trouble accepting when people disagree with you, not me. You always want the last word. But go on, respond again and you'll have it.
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
You see, now you're wording your opinion as an opinion, and not as a fact like you did earlier. Well done. You're learning. Do you want a stamp with that?
Only twisting going on here is by you.
It's pretty obvious to everyone but you that me saying your opinion is mistaken is my opinion. I can't help if you decide to treat that as a fact.
I guess it's a compliment?
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the absolute best thing about us not being walk up morals for every single game any more is it has brought back the shitfights. And we are getting some very serious provincial battle lines drawn up
This place is way more fun when we lose a few, and we have across the board a bunch of guys who are all about the same level, and all have flaws that can be highlighted and exaggerated
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the absolute best thing about us not being walk up morals for every single game any more is it has brought back the shitfights. And we are getting some very serious provincial battle lines drawn up
This place is way more fun when we lose a few, and we have across the board a bunch of guys who are all about the same level, and all have flaws that can be highlighted and exaggerated
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
the absolute best thing about us not being walk up morals for every single game any more is it has brought back the shitfights. And we are getting some very serious provincial battle lines drawn up
This place is way more fun when we lose a few, and we have across the board a bunch of guys who are all about the same level, and all have flaws that can be highlighted and exaggerated
The Jordie v DMac battle got settled so I can relax a bit more now. Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
the absolute best thing about us not being walk up morals for every single game any more is it has brought back the shitfights. And we are getting some very serious provincial battle lines drawn up
This place is way more fun when we lose a few, and we have across the board a bunch of guys who are all about the same level, and all have flaws that can be highlighted and exaggerated
The Jordie v DMac battle got settled so I can relax a bit more now. Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though
that's the best one. BB and Mo'unga are the same player with the same strengths and weaknesses, but the guys in each camp will back them to the hilt as the superior player
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
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Sotutu started SRA pretty slow, but from the 2nd half of SRA and into SR-TT, he really improved and got closer to his 2020 form.
Can we talk about Sotutu's AB form this year as well? He can still make mistakes but overall I thought he has played ok? (I admit I have not seen one game, and not sure I can bear to).
He is still young and I like the way he uses his long arms to disrupt the maul and some of his passing is very sweet for a loose forward. But he can also struggle to impose himself when the going gets hard (perhaps this is just an AB forward characteristic, sigh...) I still think he could be a longterm AB 8 and so could Jacobson (although I did like seeing LJ at 6). -
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though
that's the best one. BB and Mo'unga are the same player with the same strengths and weaknesses, but the guys in each camp will back them to the hilt as the superior player
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:
Will still take the odd snipe at Mo'unga when I get the chance though
that's the best one. BB and Mo'unga are the same player with the same strengths and weaknesses, but the guys in each camp will back them to the hilt as the superior player
Mo'unga will inevitably win that battle, though - not because he's the better player, but just because BB is older and has lost and will continue to lose the good parts of his game that glossed over the flaws in his game (the same flaws that Mo'unga has)
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
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@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
All three being ... wait for it .... from a particular province.
That's not "good balance". Unless you live in Auckland.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
All three being ... wait for it .... from a particular province.
That's not "good balance". Unless you live in Auckland.
@chester-draws said in All Blacks 2021:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
All three being ... wait for it .... from a particular province.
That's not "good balance". Unless you live in Auckland.
Eh?
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@chester-draws said in All Blacks 2021:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
All three being ... wait for it .... from a particular province.
That's not "good balance". Unless you live in Auckland.
Eh?
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
All three being ... wait for it .... from a particular province.
That's not "good balance". Unless you live in Auckland.
@chester-draws said in All Blacks 2021:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2021:
@themojoman said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan You have an excellent ability to misread posts and/or twist words. I've got to give that to you. Well done!
I think you are stuck in a hypocrisy loop again.
People are allowed to disagree with people's opinions - even yours!
I disagree that Sotutu had a quiet season, he certainly did enough to make the All Blacks for example. Now in case you get confused again, that's my opinion.
Sotutu hasn't had a quiet season. Was outstanding in Super Rugby, got leap-frogged by Jacobson/Blackadder but it's a highly competitive loose combo. His appearances since have been v.good.
Outstanding in lineout, off back of scrum and probably best passer. Ought to be excellent in combo with big hitting 6. Paps/Aioane/Hoskins has good balance.
All three being ... wait for it .... from a particular province.
That's not "good balance". Unless you live in Auckland.
Looks better than Princep/Kirifi/Savea though and I say that as a proud native of the nations capital.
