Bledisloe 1
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Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
Exactly the same can be said the other way around too
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Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
I don't see anyone rating SF highly at all, except the selectors.
The discussions are about why he/SB are the starting 6s instead of Akira and why Akira doesn't fit the desired gameplan for the starting role or fits the finishing role better.There are no slurs on Akira's abilities or praising of Frizell. The Akira bias is coming from his fans.
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
Exactly the same can be said the other way around too
@Mattasaurus said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
Exactly the same can be said the other way around too
You think Akira has only ever produced a couple of OKish performances in black? That bias is stronger than I realised!
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Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
Frizell is getting overly praised for functional "non shitting the bed" performances.
The train has over shot the station however.
He was solid but nothing to scare any of the NH teams. Backrowers of his ilk are 10 a penny up there these days.
I will give him credit for sticking up for Nugget after Wiese hit him after the whistle.
Too many of our boys have been getting towelled up on and off the ball this year.
Even when Cane was getting rinsed by O'Mahoney, someone should have been grabbing collars.
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Beta Mentality.
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@Mattasaurus said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
Exactly the same can be said the other way around too
You think Akira has only ever produced a couple of OKish performances in black? That bias is stronger than I realised!
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
@Mattasaurus said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
Amazing to see how high people are rating Frizell after a couple of OKish performances, despite starting in our first ever loss to a terrible Argentinian team at home. I guess there's some strong dislike/bias against Akira that is playing into that.
Exactly the same can be said the other way around too
You think Akira has only ever produced a couple of OKish performances in black? That bias is stronger than I realised!
It might shock you fan boys, but yes... I dont believe he's been that great... Certainly hasn't lived up to his potential in my mind... And he's had a lot of chances.... Hence why he appears to be back in the impact player box currently..
Nor has SF been that great, as others have repeatedly pointed out... He simply plays a tighter, more traditional 6 role.
Everytime any of us on here remotely criticise AI you guys jump down our throats...
Check your own bias before you imply mine...
As I have said in this thread, I would have preferred AI to start this test...
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Frizell is getting overly praised for functional "non shitting the bed" performances.
The train has over shot the station however.
He was solid but nothing to scare any of the NH teams. Backrowers of his ilk are 10 a penny up there these days.
I will give him credit for sticking up for Nugget after Wiese hit him after the whistle.
Too many of our boys have been getting towelled up on and off the ball this year.
Even when Cane was getting rinsed by O'Mahoney, someone should have been grabbing collars.
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Beta Mentality.
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Beta Mentality.
this might be the first time i've heard someone use the term (seemingly) unironically
the guys that give it all "see you in the carpark after the game" shit get laughed at...because they're never there...
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
and how did that work out?
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
and how did that work out?
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
and how did that work out?
yeah, i agree, rugby is shit now
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
some hyperbolic shit on this thread and it is only about 2 players in the same team lol. Personally I think they offer different strengths, SF did put in some big games recently but I still think Akira has a higher ceiling. Even the stats shared for me only show part of the story. Carries, tackles, missed tackles, metres gained cover part of it, anyone with access to find stats like number of cleanouts, successful cleanouts v penalties conceded?, someone used to track (1st 3 players to a ruck) etc, Im sure some platform would have them. Probably would put a few of the other forwards to shame knowing those numbers, but might help shape opinions more objectively including my own..
Bro, forget the stats. All we need are a few short well edited video clips of highlights, maybe with a bit of rap/hip-hop music playing in the background and the odd boomfa from Marshall and that will show how Owesome each of them are.
And the first 3 players to ruck stat is only bought out on special occasions, when some poster is doubting the greatness of Reuben Thorne.
@ACT-Crusader that's sort of my point..
Anyway bring on the game, will hope SB adequately plays his role for the sake of NZ, but then hope impact players take their chances.
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
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@ACT-Crusader that's sort of my point..
Anyway bring on the game, will hope SB adequately plays his role for the sake of NZ, but then hope impact players take their chances.
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
what the shit is that????
(ok yeah you would hope so)
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
what the shit is that????
(ok yeah you would hope so)
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 1:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
what the shit is that????
(ok yeah you would hope so)
yes, i thought stating the obvious might be a decent reminder to some that no much how much they shout something, it doesn't make it happen
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 1:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
what the shit is that????
(ok yeah you would hope so)
yes, i thought stating the obvious might be a decent reminder to some that no much how much they shout something, it doesn't make it happen
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 1:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
I suspect they will be measured internally by how the execute a game plan as opposed to how the fans think
what the shit is that????
(ok yeah you would hope so)
yes, i thought stating the obvious might be a decent reminder to some that no much how much they shout something, it doesn't make it happen
i absolutely refuse to believe that i cannot coach or advise referees through the television
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
and how did that work out?
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Same with Beaudy getting upended. Allblacks watched as one of their star men was sent head first into the turf and there wasn't a neck grabbed or a push dealt out.
Given that the guy that upended him was also laid out on the turf were they meant to just grab the nearest random opposition player and pose hard?
Beta Mentality.
That's a very neckbeardy comment.
Yep. O'Mahoney would have been towering over the Springbok shouting "you dirty stupid kunt"....and if anyone took umbrage there would be handbags. Sometimes you have to go looking for it.
Like Mapimpi last week letting Korobeite know he was there after the try was scored.
"have some of that you Kunt"
and how did that work out?
With Australia vanquished, Korobeite on his arse and Mapimpi on his way home to fuck the prom queen.
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Beta Mentality.
this might be the first time i've heard someone use the term (seemingly) unironically
the guys that give it all "see you in the carpark after the game" shit get laughed at...because they're never there...
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Beta Mentality.
this might be the first time i've heard someone use the term (seemingly) unironically
the guys that give it all "see you in the carpark after the game" shit get laughed at...because they're never there...
O’Mahoney is always there. Etzebeth is always there….These are the types of characters I’m on about .
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Beta Mentality.
this might be the first time i've heard someone use the term (seemingly) unironically
the guys that give it all "see you in the carpark after the game" shit get laughed at...because they're never there...
O’Mahoney is always there. Etzebeth is always there….These are the types of characters I’m on about .
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Beta Mentality.
this might be the first time i've heard someone use the term (seemingly) unironically
the guys that give it all "see you in the carpark after the game" shit get laughed at...because they're never there...
O’Mahoney is always there. Etzebeth is always there….These are the types of characters I’m on about .
So glad we have an alpha here to advise us.
