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Bledisloe 1

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #1948

    Agree with Nige.

    Now, can we pan all the referees who can't count 5 seconds after "use it"?

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      #1949

      Time wasting is my 1000% hatiest thing about televised rugby these days, so yay Raynal let this be a watershed where rugby veers away from super slow massive bodied NFL bullshit over the next decade please and thank you

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      • NTAN NTA

        Agree with Nige.

        Now, can we pan all the referees who can't count 5 seconds after "use it"?

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        @NTA said in Bledisloe 1:

        Agree with Nige.

        Now, can we pan all the referees who can't count 5 seconds after "use it"?

        I'd also like referees to know what stopping means in regards to mauls.

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        • TeWaioT TeWaio

          Time wasting is my 1000% hatiest thing about televised rugby these days, so yay Raynal let this be a watershed where rugby veers away from super slow massive bodied NFL bullshit over the next decade please and thank you

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          #1951

          @TeWaio said in Bledisloe 1:

          Time wasting is my 1000% hatiest thing about televised rugby these days, so yay Raynal let this be a watershed where rugby veers away from super slow massive bodied NFL bullshit over the next decade please and thank you

          15s time should be reffed the same as 7s time. Sorted. All the humungous beasts would have to lose 10-15kgs of muscle to get fit. Even better reduce the bench - the 8 on the bench but only allowed to use 5 or whatever is a good start.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:

            https://twitter.com/Nigelrefowens/status/1571128576782782466

            Bit of a faux pas for Nige of all people to mention my Raynal

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            #1952

            @Bones in addition to a good whistle he might have other qualities!

            Inserts pic Ricky Bobby kissing the Frenchman.

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              @TeWaio said in Bledisloe 1:

              Time wasting is my 1000% hatiest thing about televised rugby these days, so yay Raynal let this be a watershed where rugby veers away from super slow massive bodied NFL bullshit over the next decade please and thank you

              15s time should be reffed the same as 7s time. Sorted. All the humungous beasts would have to lose 10-15kgs of muscle to get fit. Even better reduce the bench - the 8 on the bench but only allowed to use 5 or whatever is a good start.

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              #1953

              @Machpants and yet they introduce water breaks....

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                @Machpants and yet they introduce water breaks....

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                @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:

                @Machpants and yet they introduce water breaks....

                I think that was to stop the continous water carries on the field at every stoppage. It might even speed the game up? Just put a table on the half way line, either side - help yourself boys, but the game ain't stopping. And if you are front row and required? Whelp free kick to the opposition

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                  @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:

                  @Machpants and yet they introduce water breaks....

                  I think that was to stop the continous water carries on the field at every stoppage. It might even speed the game up? Just put a table on the half way line, either side - help yourself boys, but the game ain't stopping. And if you are front row and required? Whelp free kick to the opposition

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                  @Machpants

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                  • M Machpants

                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:

                    @Machpants and yet they introduce water breaks....

                    I think that was to stop the continous water carries on the field at every stoppage. It might even speed the game up? Just put a table on the half way line, either side - help yourself boys, but the game ain't stopping. And if you are front row and required? Whelp free kick to the opposition

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                    #1956

                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:

                    @Machpants and yet they introduce water breaks....

                    I think that was to stop the continous water carries on the field at every stoppage. It might even speed the game up? Just put a table on the half way line, either side - help yourself boys, but the game ain't stopping. And if you are front row and required? Whelp free kick to the opposition

                    Yep. Idea was to stop lots of small delays by creating one per half when there was an injury being dealt to.
                    Does get weird when there is no injury and they just stop though.

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                        #1958

                        @Daffy-Jaffy I stopped watching at 4 mins after hearing not one mention of Foley's and his teammates actions. They're not trying to discuss the incident, they're just having a sooky.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Daffy-Jaffy I stopped watching at 4 mins after hearing not one mention of Foley's and his teammates actions. They're not trying to discuss the incident, they're just having a sooky.

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                          @Bones said in Bledisloe 1:

                          @Daffy-Jaffy I stopped watching at 4 mins after hearing not one mention of Foley's and his teammates actions. They're not trying to discuss the incident, they're just having a sooky.

                          Exactly.

                          Lineout throws overturned for not being thrown in time.

                          Scrum feeds overturned for not being put in.

                          That video actually makes it even worst for Foley.

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy

                            Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                            And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Daffy-Jaffy I stopped watching at 4 mins after hearing not one mention of Foley's and his teammates actions. They're not trying to discuss the incident, they're just having a sooky.

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                              @Bones said in Bledisloe 1:

                              @Daffy-Jaffy I stopped watching at 4 mins after hearing not one mention of Foley's and his teammates actions. They're not trying to discuss the incident, they're just having a sooky.

                              Spot on. All of them ignored the elephant in the room - Foley repeatedly ignoring the Ref's instructions (twice) to get on with a penalty kick. And astonishing to hear one former player saying she had no idea that was a rule

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy

                                Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                @Daffy-Jaffy

                                Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

                                Won't matter though. Even some Oz posters here are buying into that rubbish being spouted about 'never seen before in test rugby'.

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                                  On my rewatch one of the Ozzies actually jumps at the last penaly we took! Should be another penaly the grub!

                                  The three comeback tries were really on ABs errors (first one should've been scrubbed). And these were all not acceptable 'I'd be happy they were all never seen in black again' level errors
                                  Sotutu misses Foley badly
                                  CC just fucking digs in by dozens of metres
                                  Jordan can't tackle or even slow Samu

                                  "winning" penalty for Oz was Akira being unable to actually clean in a normal ruck, pathetic

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                                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                                  On my rewatch one of the Ozzies actually jumps at the last penaly we took! Should be another penaly the grub!

                                  The three comeback tries were really on ABs errors (first one should've been scrubbed). And these were all not acceptable 'I'd be happy they were all never seen in black again' level errors
                                  Sotutu misses Foley badly
                                  CC just fucking digs in by dozens of metres
                                  Jordan can't tackle or even slow Samu

                                  "winning" penalty for Oz was Akira being unable to actually clean in a normal ruck, pathetic

                                  That was fucking shit rugby all round, from the stupid decision to run the ball into midfield, making any subsequent penalty eminently kickable, to the piss poor attempt to clean out by both AI and FN.

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                                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                                    On my rewatch one of the Ozzies actually jumps at the last penaly we took! Should be another penaly the grub!

                                    The three comeback tries were really on ABs errors (first one should've been scrubbed). And these were all not acceptable 'I'd be happy they were all never seen in black again' level errors
                                    Sotutu misses Foley badly
                                    CC just fucking digs in by dozens of metres
                                    Jordan can't tackle or even slow Samu

                                    "winning" penalty for Oz was Akira being unable to actually clean in a normal ruck, pathetic

                                    That was fucking shit rugby all round, from the stupid decision to run the ball into midfield, making any subsequent penalty eminently kickable, to the piss poor attempt to clean out by both AI and FN.

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                                    @junior said in Bledisloe 1:

                                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                                    On my rewatch one of the Ozzies actually jumps at the last penaly we took! Should be another penaly the grub!

                                    The three comeback tries were really on ABs errors (first one should've been scrubbed). And these were all not acceptable 'I'd be happy they were all never seen in black again' level errors
                                    Sotutu misses Foley badly
                                    CC just fucking digs in by dozens of metres
                                    Jordan can't tackle or even slow Samu

                                    "winning" penalty for Oz was Akira being unable to actually clean in a normal ruck, pathetic

                                    That was fucking shit rugby all round, from the stupid decision to run the ball into midfield, making any subsequent penalty eminently kickable, to the piss poor attempt to clean out by both AI and FN.

                                    Careful now. You’ll be tagged as a hater.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy

                                      Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                      And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

                                      Won't matter though. Even some Oz posters here are buying into that rubbish being spouted about 'never seen before in test rugby'.

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                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy

                                      Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                      And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

                                      Won't matter though. Even some Oz posters here are buying into that rubbish being spouted about 'never seen before in test rugby'.

                                      Once again, I'd like you to point out one example of someone being done for time wasting taking a penalty kick to a line out. I have never seen it before, neither has SLipper or Whitelock.

                                      Yes I've seen a (sadly) very few for lineouts and scrum put ins, but never for taking the kick like that. I'm not saying I disagree with the decision, but as far as I can remember it was unprecedented

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                                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                        @Daffy-Jaffy

                                        Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                        And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

                                        Won't matter though. Even some Oz posters here are buying into that rubbish being spouted about 'never seen before in test rugby'.

                                        Once again, I'd like you to point out one example of someone being done for time wasting taking a penalty kick to a line out. I have never seen it before, neither has SLipper or Whitelock.

                                        Yes I've seen a (sadly) very few for lineouts and scrum put ins, but never for taking the kick like that. I'm not saying I disagree with the decision, but as far as I can remember it was unprecedented

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                                        @Machpants I can't recall seeing someone fuck about that much taking a PK and don't recall a ref having the patience to call time off to tell someone to hurry up and take a PK... lastly I've definitely not seen a player's own team mates screaming and imploring him to kick it, so much so they start running over.

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                                          Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                          And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

                                          Won't matter though. Even some Oz posters here are buying into that rubbish being spouted about 'never seen before in test rugby'.

                                          Once again, I'd like you to point out one example of someone being done for time wasting taking a penalty kick to a line out. I have never seen it before, neither has SLipper or Whitelock.

                                          Yes I've seen a (sadly) very few for lineouts and scrum put ins, but never for taking the kick like that. I'm not saying I disagree with the decision, but as far as I can remember it was unprecedented

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                                          @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 1:

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy

                                          Fair play to Raynal there. He was clear when he told Foley to carry on, told him time on, gave him plenty of time to kick the ball and warned him a 3rd time.

                                          And when Nic White demanded an explanation, he was again really clear and told him firmly and politely why he made the decision and why it was right

                                          Won't matter though. Even some Oz posters here are buying into that rubbish being spouted about 'never seen before in test rugby'.

                                          Once again, I'd like you to point out one example of someone being done for time wasting taking a penalty kick to a line out. I have never seen it before, neither has SLipper or Whitelock.

                                          Yes I've seen a (sadly) very few for lineouts and scrum put ins, but never for taking the kick like that. I'm not saying I disagree with the decision, but as far as I can remember it was unprecedented

                                          Still a strange thing to be the focus.
                                          Time wasting is the call. Doesn’t matter how it occurs.
                                          I can’t recall seeing anyone fucking around and ignoring the ref three times while taking a penalty kick for touch before either.
                                          So maybe it was an unprecedented call for an unprecedented action?

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