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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Ryan says they picked on NPC form. That doesn't explain the selection of some bench players.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/300714075/the-unfair-treatment-of-all-blacks-loose-forward-pita-gus-sowakula-and-where-to-from-here

    Eek, I made the mistake of reading the comments to that article. Self uppercut.

    Never go full retard Stuff comments

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    Ryan says they picked on NPC form. That doesn't explain the selection of some bench players.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/300714075/the-unfair-treatment-of-all-blacks-loose-forward-pita-gus-sowakula-and-where-to-from-here

    Eek, I made the mistake of reading the comments to that article. Self uppercut.

    Never go full retard Stuff comments

    TBF I was assigning some comments to Fern posters in my head. 😉

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

      Not sure what the goals of the team are. If I was selecting a team it would be based on potential to reach a higher level that's why I don't understand the selection of Gatland. I can appreciate he did a great job for North Harbor but he would be swallowed up at international level.

      I believe the selection is for next year. As in - who is the next cab of the rank next year if people start falling over (ala first fives in the 2011 RWC). I suppose one thing in Gatland's favour is he is very experienced but on form/potential I would think Fergus Burke is perhaps a better option.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

      @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

      Not sure what the goals of the team are. If I was selecting a team it would be based on potential to reach a higher level that's why I don't understand the selection of Gatland. I can appreciate he did a great job for North Harbor but he would be swallowed up at international level.

      I believe the selection is for next year. As in - who is the next cab of the rank next year if people start falling over (ala first fives in the 2011 RWC). I suppose one thing in Gatland's favour is he is very experienced but on form/potential I would think Fergus Burke is perhaps a better option.

      Burke getting selected along with all the other Cantabs? That would have been a poplar selection.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

        Ryan says they picked on NPC form. That doesn't explain the selection of some bench players.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/300714075/the-unfair-treatment-of-all-blacks-loose-forward-pita-gus-sowakula-and-where-to-from-here

        Eek, I made the mistake of reading the comments to that article. Self uppercut.

        Never go full retard Stuff comments

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

        @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

        Ryan says they picked on NPC form. That doesn't explain the selection of some bench players.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/300714075/the-unfair-treatment-of-all-blacks-loose-forward-pita-gus-sowakula-and-where-to-from-here

        Eek, I made the mistake of reading the comments to that article. Self uppercut.

        Never go full retard Stuff comments

        comments section on you tube videos can be pretty interesting too 🙂

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

          Not sure what the goals of the team are. If I was selecting a team it would be based on potential to reach a higher level that's why I don't understand the selection of Gatland. I can appreciate he did a great job for North Harbor but he would be swallowed up at international level.

          I believe the selection is for next year. As in - who is the next cab of the rank next year if people start falling over (ala first fives in the 2011 RWC). I suppose one thing in Gatland's favour is he is very experienced but on form/potential I would think Fergus Burke is perhaps a better option.

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          @KiwiMurph Might be true but could you imagine that scenario? Could Beaver come out of retirement?

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          • broughieB broughie

            @KiwiMurph Might be true but could you imagine that scenario? Could Beaver come out of retirement?

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            @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

            @KiwiMurph Might be true but could you imagine that scenario? Could Beaver come out of retirement?

            It's hard to imagine a scenario of 4 or 5 guys that would be ahead of Gatland all going down, but never say never aye.

            The thing with Donald and 2011 is that he knew Henry's system so it wasn't completely foreign to him when lightning struck for the third time! I'm not as down on Gatland and actually prefer that the likes of Burke aren't being rushed.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

              Flanders form this season has clearly been down on previous seasons (carrying an injury?)

              His form at the tail end of the NPC was actually really good. IIRC he has been carrying an injury most of the year.

              I am a fan of Flanders but I reckon he needs a season of showing he can get through intense games at Super level without cramping/breaking down before being selected at the next level.

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              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

              @Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

              Flanders form this season has clearly been down on previous seasons (carrying an injury?)

              His form at the tail end of the NPC was actually really good. IIRC he has been carrying an injury most of the year.

              I am a fan of Flanders but I reckon he needs a season of showing he can get through intense games at Super level without cramping/breaking down before being selected at the next level.

              Agreed. He looks to be the big, physical - defence & offence that is ideal for test rugby. However he seems to be cursed by the injury bug.

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                Frye
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                Zach Mercer
                Camille Chat
                George Bridge
                Josua Tuisova

                4 players named so far for the BaaBaas.

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                  Bovidae
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                  Bridge was in the promo so always looked like being selected.

                  50_Days_Twitter_1200x628_TM.jpeg

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Bridge was in the promo so always looked like being selected.

                    50_Days_Twitter_1200x628_TM.jpeg

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                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                    Bridge was in the promo so always looked like being selected.

                    50_Days_Twitter_1200x628_TM.jpeg

                    Yeah. Although Ollivon certainly won't be available. France play SA the day before.

                    Every test team is in action that weekend so unless they get dispensation (like Tuisova must have) then it will mostly be club players. I'm sure it should still be a strong lineup.

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                      I expect some more NZ players to be involved, if they get a NZR release. How about some of those considered unlucky not be to playing in black in this game? 🙂

                      For example:

                      Hodgman
                      Eklund
                      Thompson
                      Ah Kuoi
                      Sangster/MSR
                      Suafoa
                      PGS
                      Stevenson

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        I expect some more NZ players to be involved, if they get a NZR release. How about some of those considered unlucky not be to playing in black in this game? 🙂

                        For example:

                        Hodgman
                        Eklund
                        Thompson
                        Ah Kuoi
                        Sangster/MSR
                        Suafoa
                        PGS
                        Stevenson

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                        Cpt Kumera
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                        Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

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                        • C Cpt Kumera

                          Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

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                          @Cpt-Kumera For Ta'avao?

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                          • C Cpt Kumera

                            Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

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                            @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                            Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                            That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                              Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                              That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

                              @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                              Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                              That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

                              For Ta'avao TH for TH .He has been playing TH for BOP with Ross on the LH side.

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                                Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

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                                Bovidae
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                                @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                                Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                                It was mentioned in the Canterbury-BOP commentary that he was on standby.

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                                  Frye
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                                  Ta'avao has been stretchered off twice with head injuries this season so probably the right call there. Glad the brains trust managed to figure that one out.

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                                    Ta'avao has been stretchered off twice with head injuries this season so probably the right call there. Glad the brains trust managed to figure that one out.

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                                    Tim
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                                    @Frye Spinal injury on the last one too.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                                      Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                                      That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

                                      For Ta'avao TH for TH .He has been playing TH for BOP with Ross on the LH side.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                                      Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                                      That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

                                      For Ta'avao TH for TH .He has been playing TH for BOP with Ross on the LH side.

                                      He can also play loosehead which is a big bonus if he can do it at the higher level.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

                                        Not sure what the goals of the team are. If I was selecting a team it would be based on potential to reach a higher level that's why I don't understand the selection of Gatland. I can appreciate he did a great job for North Harbor but he would be swallowed up at international level.

                                        I believe the selection is for next year. As in - who is the next cab of the rank next year if people start falling over (ala first fives in the 2011 RWC). I suppose one thing in Gatland's favour is he is very experienced but on form/potential I would think Fergus Burke is perhaps a better option.

                                        Burke getting selected along with all the other Cantabs? That would have been a poplar selection.

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                                        Bones
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                                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

                                        That would have been a poplar selection

                                        We'd end up with everyone pining for Gatland.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                                          Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                                          That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

                                          For Ta'avao TH for TH .He has been playing TH for BOP with Ross on the LH side.

                                          He can also play loosehead which is a big bonus if he can do it at the higher level.

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                                          Chris
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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Cpt-Kumera said in All Blacks XV:

                                          Heard bop prop tevita mafilio called into nz xv

                                          That's great news, I assume that's for Brewis? He had a great season for the Canes and ended up being one of our best looseheads by the time the season was out.

                                          For Ta'avao TH for TH .He has been playing TH for BOP with Ross on the LH side.

                                          He can also play loosehead which is a big bonus if he can do it at the higher level.

                                          Yeah I saw he covered both sides for the Canes.
                                          Very valuable if he can do it at test level.

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