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WRWC Final - NZ Vs England

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

    Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
    If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

    Sounds like my tennis serve or my golf swing!

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    @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

    Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
    If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

    Sounds like my tennis serve or my golf swing!

    I just think she didn’t have the experience to work through a fix on the spot.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

      Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
      If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

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      @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

      Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
      If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

      I was yelling at the TV to aim for inside the right post as all her close misses went left. There weren't any gimmes in front of the posts.

      BTW, England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

        Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
        If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

        Sounds like my tennis serve or my golf swing!

        I just think she didn’t have the experience to work through a fix on the spot.

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        @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

        @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

        Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
        If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

        Sounds like my tennis serve or my golf swing!

        I just think she didn’t have the experience to work through a fix on the spot.

        Bloody tough when you're in it. I guess she could get pointers at half time but it's difficult to make changes on the fly

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        • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

          @MiketheSnow said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

          Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

          Some women

          WRLWC drop kicking 40m

          Are they drop kicking for goal?

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          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          @MiketheSnow said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

          Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

          Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

          Some women

          WRLWC drop kicking 40m

          Are they drop kicking for goal?

          Not often, but that's just coaching and practice.

          Kick offs no problem

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            Just had a quick squizz back at the end of the game again.

            And I'm not sure if it has been raised, but fuck it was karma for slowing the game down.

            You know those teams that take an injury break to rest their oversized pack?

            If England hadn't taken a breather and just formed and threw that lineout the TMO would never have looked at Demant not touching that kick that went out in the full, and Leti-i'iga wouldn't have scored.

            Karma suckers.

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

              Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

              Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

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              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

              Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

              Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

              Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

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              • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

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                @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

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                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                  @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                  Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                  Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                  Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                  Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                    @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                    @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

                    Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
                    If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

                    I was yelling at the TV to aim for inside the right post as all her close misses went left. There weren't any gimmes in front of the posts.

                    BTW, England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44.

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                    @Bovidae said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                    @Crucial said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                    @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                    @Billy-Tell Yep. The commentators said that Holmes was nailing her kicks at goal from 50m during warm-up. I think she missed so many kicks because of the pressure; not because the kicks were too hard.

                    Most of the kicks (except one duff one) were close. Minor technical problem that was creating a late hook to the left.
                    If you were at practice and lining them up one after another you’d fix it quickly but you don’t get that luxury in a game.

                    I was yelling at the TV to aim for inside the right post as all her close misses went left. There weren't any gimmes in front of the posts.

                    BTW, England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44.

                    I like these stats. Shows conversions aren’t a given.

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                      Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                      Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                      Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                      Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

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                      @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                      Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                      Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                      Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                      Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                      England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

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                      • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                        Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                        Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                        Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                        Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                        England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

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                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                        Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                        Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                        Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                        Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                        England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                        So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                            Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                            Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                            Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                            Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                            England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                            So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

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                            @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                            Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                            Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                            Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                            Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                            Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                            England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                            So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

                            I haven't searched for them but there were some ball in play stats being thrown around for both the semis and final and they were well above the average mens test comparison.. Around 6-8% off the top of my head

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                              Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                              Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                              Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                              Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                              England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                              So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

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                              @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                              Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                              Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                              Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                              Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                              England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                              So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

                              Never said anything about skills other than kicking. In reference to DC being a shit coach. Of course you'd know this if you read what I wrote...

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                                DC wasn't the kicking coach. He came to camp and did a couple of sessions and gave out some tips. If he was kicking coach there would have been full on golf swing analysis, mental coaching (which they had, but specifically to kicking).
                                He would have pointed out a few obvious things to take stuff up a notch.
                                Can't blame him for a few misses. He actually improved Holmes' tee kicking quite a bit with those tips. She was a much better kicker at the end of the tournament than when she started.
                                It is fair to say that not a lot of kick coaching is done at FPC levels. It often comes down to inviduals putting their hand up and doing extras after training. Just like mens teams used to be.

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                                  Never said he was a kicking coach either. I was responding to the fact he was labelled as such.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    DC wasn't the kicking coach. He came to camp and did a couple of sessions and gave out some tips. If he was kicking coach there would have been full on golf swing analysis, mental coaching (which they had, but specifically to kicking).
                                    He would have pointed out a few obvious things to take stuff up a notch.
                                    Can't blame him for a few misses. He actually improved Holmes' tee kicking quite a bit with those tips. She was a much better kicker at the end of the tournament than when she started.
                                    It is fair to say that not a lot of kick coaching is done at FPC levels. It often comes down to inviduals putting their hand up and doing extras after training. Just like mens teams used to be.

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                                    @Crucial as I mentioned a few weeks back, it isnt so much the kicking that is the issue, its the distance from the foot, and suggested they could probably have a slightly smaller/lighter ball (like a 4.5) but @Stargazer said this was looked at a year or 2 back and they decided to leave as is.

                                    When you watch the last 2 games of the BFs it seemed clear that less kicking was a tactic, especially against England where a kick would often not get past the 22, meaning England would then have an attacking lineout with thier maul, so keeping it away from there was paramount.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Crucial as I mentioned a few weeks back, it isnt so much the kicking that is the issue, its the distance from the foot, and suggested they could probably have a slightly smaller/lighter ball (like a 4.5) but @Stargazer said this was looked at a year or 2 back and they decided to leave as is.

                                      When you watch the last 2 games of the BFs it seemed clear that less kicking was a tactic, especially against England where a kick would often not get past the 22, meaning England would then have an attacking lineout with thier maul, so keeping it away from there was paramount.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                      @Crucial as I mentioned a few weeks back, it isnt so much the kicking that is the issue, its the distance from the foot, and suggested they could probably have a slightly smaller/lighter ball (like a 4.5) but @Stargazer said this was looked at a year or 2 back and they decided to leave as is.

                                      When you watch the last 2 games of the BFs it seemed clear that less kicking was a tactic, especially against England where a kick would often not get past the 22, meaning England would then have an attacking lineout with thier maul, so keeping it away from there was paramount.

                                      In general I agree but some technique coaching in that area can improve things. There are some decent out of hand kickers in other teams and it's not like that have massive legs or longer levers. Technique and timing can go a long way just like in cricket.
                                      Proper drop punting where more force is put onto the ball going onto the foot is a technique I'm not seeing much. Old school spiral punts will also get distance.
                                      Key is finding the time and expertise to put effort into this area. Not much different to the mens game in that respect where natural kickers are the start point

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                                        @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                                        Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                                        Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                                        Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                                        Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                                        England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                                        So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

                                        Never said anything about skills other than kicking. In reference to DC being a shit coach. Of course you'd know this if you read what I wrote...

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                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                                        Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                                        Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                                        Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                                        Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                                        England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                                        So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

                                        Never said anything about skills other than kicking. In reference to DC being a shit coach. Of course you'd know this if you read what I wrote...

                                        This is the Fern mate. It is my prerogative to form an opinion without actually reading everything you said!

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                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                                          Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                                          Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                                          Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                                          Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                                          England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                                          So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

                                          Never said anything about skills other than kicking. In reference to DC being a shit coach. Of course you'd know this if you read what I wrote...

                                          This is the Fern mate. It is my prerogative to form an opinion without actually reading everything you said!

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                                          @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Joans-Town-Jones said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          Don’t think we were winning that without the red card. Nevertheless well done. Fluhler is fantastic. DC was a great 10 but he is a shît goal kicking coach. We need to learn how to defend a maul.

                                          Women can barely kick 30ms. He'd need a doctorate in bionics to improve their kicking.

                                          Sorry to read you didn’t get to watch the final. It was a great game. Distance wasn’t the problem, accuracy was.

                                          Pffff, they can't even get them from the sideline. They drop under the bar ffs.

                                          Go back to the 1950s with your outdated chauvinistic views. We know you don’t like women’s rugby, you’ve already posted such, go piss in another thread. Ideally one where you’ve actually watched the game.

                                          England only converted 20 of their 43 tries. NZ were 21/44. Facts, Beta.

                                          So what is your point exactly? I'd love to see the stats for stoppage times because the game seemed to flow better than most men's games I've seen for a while. The skills on show were very impressive, capped off by the BFs version of the try from the end of the world. Of course you would know this if you watched the game....

                                          Never said anything about skills other than kicking. In reference to DC being a shit coach. Of course you'd know this if you read what I wrote...

                                          This is the Fern mate. It is my prerogative to form an opinion without actually reading everything you said!

                                          Look, when you come for my mother, thats what you get.

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