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@Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.
I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.
Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.
Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.
Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball. -
@Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.
I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.
Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.
Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.@Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.
I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.
Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.
Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.Fozzie still searching for his one.
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@Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.
I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.
Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.
Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.Fozzie still searching for his one.
@Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.
I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.
Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.
Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.Fozzie still searching for his one.
Never too late for learnings
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heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.
crazy shit.
I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason
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heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.
crazy shit.
I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.
crazy shit.
I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason
Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.
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@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
Eddie must be bricking it following this news
Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.
Musical chairs.
@Crucial said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
Eddie must be bricking it following this news
Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.
Musical chairs.
Hasn’t Eddie been linked to Rugby USA? I know they’re broke but Eddie will be flush from his severance won’t he?
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i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit
i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit
i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.
Or even further back to when England didn’t need backs except to kick goals. 30 lineouts, 30 rolling mauls, 20 scrums with 40 resets, 1 try, 5 penalties and a droppie per game. Job done.
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Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.
Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.@Crucial said in NH International Rugby:
Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.
Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.Yep ann
d I think another thing some coaches fall over is not being the best selectors, where as in a super they have a fixed squad, and that is opposite problem maybe.
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Eddie must be bricking it following this news
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
Eddie must be bricking it following this news
Yeah what was his salary again? Over a mill. He'll be gutted to get an ambassador/pundit gig for the world cup to stack on top of that just to pass the time.
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Ms cato No2 has said the scuttlebutt is that Borthwick is taking over the England job. Not sure of the sauce and I've seen nothing in the news as yet.
Edit: She has it from The Good, the Bad and the Rugby and "as being confirmed".
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Confirmed. Sacked.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones
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@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.
crazy shit.
I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason
Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.
crazy shit.
I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason
Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.
Wales would take that right now. Beats being whacked by Georgia at home and falling to 9th in the world. And it could be 11th soon as Italy and Japan have them in their sights. Samoa would fancy them right now too
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The RFU have confirmed that Richard Cockerill will take over the day-to-day running of the team in the interim until a new coach is appointed.
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Confirmed. Sacked.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones
@MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:
Confirmed. Sacked.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones
Not really a surprise. Jones' style is good for one world cup cycle. After that, players and coaches are fatigued by him.
I really hope Sir Clive comes back in and bombs hard (sorry @Catogrande), if for no other reason than it will mean we never see his smug face on TV again.
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The RFU have confirmed that Richard Cockerill will take over the day-to-day running of the team in the interim until a new coach is appointed.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:
The RFU have confirmed that Richard Cockerill will take over the day-to-day running of the team in the interim until a new coach is appointed.
Yeah, but Sir Clive won a world cup. That's worth at least a 10% bump on his average
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Eddie used a crazy number of players in his tenure and capped more than any other England coach (47 debutants up to 2021) and also burned through 18 assistant coaches -
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@MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:
Confirmed. Sacked.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones
Not really a surprise. Jones' style is good for one world cup cycle. After that, players and coaches are fatigued by him.
I really hope Sir Clive comes back in and bombs hard (sorry @Catogrande), if for no other reason than it will mean we never see his smug face on TV again.
@stodders said in NH International Rugby:
@MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:
Confirmed. Sacked.
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones
Not really a surprise. Jones' style is good for one world cup cycle. After that, players and coaches are fatigued by him.
I recall telling my English mates that Eddie would crash and burn after 1 World Cup and leave them in a complete mess as this seemed to be his preferred MO.
I really hope Sir Clive comes back in and bombs hard (sorry @Catogrande), if for no other reason than it will mean we never see his smug face on TV again.
England should just aim for he RC semis and start talking to Farrell now about taking over after that.
