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All Blacks 2023

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    African Monkey
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    Geez this hype about Blackadder is OTT. He's played 9 tests 2 years ago which included the likes of Fiji, Tonga C, the USA etc. played about 35 Super Rugby games in 7 seasons yet somehow has this rep of being one of the first names on the teamsheet every time an ABs squad is about to be named. I think he had 1 good test against SA in Townsville, and was solid, without being spectacular in the rest of his outings in Black.

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      I'm probably the biggest Finau cheerleader on this site, bit i can see why he didn't get picked

      He's super inexperienced, as recently as this season he was still a bench player for the Chiefs. And because he hasn't racked up big minutes, i don't think he's fit enough for lots of test rugby yet. If he goes now, and has to play 3 play off games in a row (in a perfect world) i don't know how he is going to go.

      He's a good raw talent with the right physical and metal attributes, but i think the World Cup was a year early for him.

      That being said, we are desperately short of guys like him in NZ rugby. Most are too small (hybrid 7s like every loose forward we selected), or too slow (small locks). Or we've never been able to unlock their potential when they do have the physical gifts.

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        I'm probably the biggest Finau cheerleader on this site, bit i can see why he didn't get picked

        He's super inexperienced, as recently as this season he was still a bench player for the Chiefs. And because he hasn't racked up big minutes, i don't think he's fit enough for lots of test rugby yet. If he goes now, and has to play 3 play off games in a row (in a perfect world) i don't know how he is going to go.

        He's a good raw talent with the right physical and metal attributes, but i think the World Cup was a year early for him.

        That being said, we are desperately short of guys like him in NZ rugby. Most are too small (hybrid 7s like every loose forward we selected), or too slow (small locks). Or we've never been able to unlock their potential when they do have the physical gifts.

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        @mariner4life All of that is true, but the most important part is 'desperately short'. We need that type of player if we are going to pick Cane (or Dalton) and Savea. So whether Finau is ready or not, I think we know Jacobsen and Dalton - as good as they are - will never be ready to be that player. The other option is to change other players to fix the balance, but I think we know Foster is not going to do that. At the very least Finau should have played against the boks, and should have been training with the squad ahead of a winger - but that's been done to death.
        Akira and Luatua are two big missed opportunities, for whatever reason. could even include Fifita and Sowakula in that too I guess.

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          Luatua wasn't wanted for some ungodly reason

          I know why they wanted Fifita, incredibly gifted, but they couldn't get the balance right. Akira very similar. PGS should never have been picked.

          I am very interested in what the side looks like next year.

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            Luatua wasn't wanted for some ungodly reason

            I know why they wanted Fifita, incredibly gifted, but they couldn't get the balance right. Akira very similar. PGS should never have been picked.

            I am very interested in what the side looks like next year.

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            @mariner4life

            See here.

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              @mariner4life

              See here.

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              @gt12
              Finally a Team that can win shit consistently.

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                Everyone: The All Blacks and the Wallabies are shit now and have shit players

                Crusaders Fans: The Crusaders are fucking awesome because they beat NZ and Aus teams.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  Everyone: The All Blacks and the Wallabies are shit now and have shit players

                  Crusaders Fans: The Crusaders are fucking awesome because they beat NZ and Aus teams.

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                  @mariner4life
                  You can only beat who they put in front of you,Short memory they also beat SA teams and the Argentine side who had a great number of test players in it. lol.

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                    How many games did the Crusaders lose this year?

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      Everyone: The All Blacks and the Wallabies are shit now and have shit players

                      Crusaders Fans: The Crusaders are fucking awesome because they beat NZ and Aus teams.

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                      Everyone: The All Blacks and the Wallabies are shit now and have shit players

                      Except that not everyone is saying that. I think the majority of people would disagree with the bolded bit.

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                        not if you read an AB game thread you wouldn't

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          How many games did the Crusaders lose this year?

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                          How many games did the Crusaders lose this year?

                          And how many injuries did they have?

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                            dunno, how many?

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                              not if you read an AB game thread you wouldn't

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                              @mariner4life Haha.

                              Awful analysis, incorrect conclusions, zero insight

                              Wrong about pretty much everything

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                How many games did the Crusaders lose this year?

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                                @mariner4life
                                I think they won the title, play off is all that counts remember,It does not matter if the ABs lose to France all about the 3 games at the end according to some Ferners
                                All about the trophy History remembers who won .
                                Crusaders success really does twist up some people I love it.

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                                  which trophies did the ABs not win?

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                                    @mariner4life
                                    I think they won the title, play off is all that counts remember,It does not matter if the ABs lose to France all about the 3 games at the end according to some Ferners
                                    All about the trophy History remembers who won .
                                    Crusaders success really does twist up some people I love it.

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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    Crusaders success really does twist up some people I love it.

                                    and no it doesn't. I don't care, they are fucking good when it matters, all power to them.

                                    the overwhelming smug of supporters who have absolutely zilch to do with that success however does make me laugh

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                                      Luatua wasn't wanted for some ungodly reason

                                      I know why they wanted Fifita, incredibly gifted, but they couldn't get the balance right. Akira very similar. PGS should never have been picked.

                                      I am very interested in what the side looks like next year.

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      Luatua wasn't wanted for some ungodly reason

                                      I know why they wanted Fifita, incredibly gifted, but they couldn't get the balance right. Akira very similar. PGS should never have been picked.

                                      I am very interested in what the side looks like next year.

                                      Him coming out and saying he didn’t like playing as a tight forward was probably a career limiting move

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Crusaders success really does twist up some people I love it.

                                        and no it doesn't. I don't care, they are fucking good when it matters, all power to them.

                                        the overwhelming smug of supporters who have absolutely zilch to do with that success however does make me laugh

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                                        @mariner4life

                                        Yeah you are up set by their success,Standing out like dogs balls.

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                                          Duluth
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                                          If the All Blacks do call up Blackadder you have to question what role Luke Jacobson has

                                          This seems to be the selectors current preferences by position

                                          6 - Shannon, Barrett, Papali'i, Jacobson
                                          7 - Cane, Papali'i, Jacobson
                                          8 - Savea, Jacobson

                                          If Blackadder does get added doesn't he slot in ahead of Jacobson in every position?

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