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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    BerniesCorner
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    Come on Foz you got this. Don't be conservative in the selections.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in [RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland]

      My only doubt about Roigard is if we are leading by two points and need to defend and his lack of experience in a tight game.

      Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

      Picking Christie is pretty vintage Foster.
      A player that you know is bang average but conforms to a notion of safety first or some other nonsense.

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      @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      Yeah, and this is based on the probably wrong assumption that we are actually leading and that Christie is going to pull off one miracle tackle after another that Roigard will somehow be unable to do.

      To be clear we don't know what the scoreline is likely to be when Smith comes off and there's a risk Christie will fuck up as well. On balance, Roigard's the better bet.

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        If Smith is going well and we are ahead I'd probably leave him on. No need to be robotic regarding subs.

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        • boobooB booboo

          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

          None of that makes any sense to me.

          Ploise exploin ...

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          Derm McCrum
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          @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

          Apparently Jimmy O'Brien ate a Kimberley Mikado with his coffee this morning so it looks like he's not in the squad.

          None of that makes any sense to me.

          Ploise exploin ...

          Eating biccies cos you're not in the squad. But it's ok - he squeezed onto the bench in the 23 geansaí so relax as you were.

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          • S stodders

            To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

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            Derm McCrum
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            @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            To any of the Irish posters on here, I've seen some talk about Irish fans countering the Haka. Will it be the Fields of Athenry or Zombie as the backing song to the Haka at the weekend do you think? 🙂

            How would we know? Besides it's not countering the haka - it's an Irish singalong that the NZ team dance to along with a beaudacious rapper.

            Crowd Zombie feat/Aaron S. and the Unzedders

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            • S stodders

              @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

              So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

              Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

              44f4f48b-b0b4-48dc-aef4-c368eaf91681-image.png

              Image taken from this post on X:

              https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

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              Derm McCrum
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              @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

              So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

              Leinster's Jimmy O'Brien is in the 23 instead of Henshaw or McCloskey - brings more versatility to the backline.

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                Derm McCrum
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                The RWC 2019 Stumblers vs 2023 Hopers

                Cian Healy vs Andrew Porter
                Rory Best vs Dan Sheehan
                Tadhg Furlong - same
                Iain Henderson - same
                James Ryan vs Tadgh Beirne
                Peter O'Mahony - same
                Josh van der Flier - same
                CJ Stander vs Caelan Doris

                Conor Murray - Jamison Gibson Park
                Johnny Sexton - same
                Jacob Stockdale vs Mack Hansen
                Robbie Henshaw vs Bundee Aki
                Garry Ringrose - same
                Keith Earls vs James Lowe
                Rob Kearney vs Hugo Keenan
                Replacements
                Niall Scannell vs Ronan Kelleher
                Dave Kilcoyne - same
                Andrew Porter vs Finlay Bealham
                Tadhg Beirne vs Joe McCarthy
                Rhys Ruddock vs Jack Conan
                Luke McGrath vs Conor Murray
                Joey Carbery vs Jack Crowley
                Jordan Larmour vs Jimmy O'Brien

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                  Derm McCrum
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                  Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                  Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

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                    Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                    Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

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                    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                    Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                    The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      In case it hasn't been mentioned ...

                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1712034563697045611?t=1XHU4Qh6RvC3NV32ZhaRnQ&s=19

                      6pm CET Thursday = 2am AEST = 4am NZST

                      All is right with the world.

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                      @booboo Perfect timing for everyone ...

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                        stodders
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                        You know you're up against it when one of your own legends is tipping the green machine:

                        https://www.planetrugby.com/news/legendary-centre-conrad-smith-fears-for-the-all-blacks-against-ireland

                        "I’d love to think the All Blacks have got one in us to get one over the Irish, but it’s a game that if it was played 10 times, the All Blacks could win three or four."

                        He must have been speaking to @Dodge 😄

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                          @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                          Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                          Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                          The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

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                          game_film
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                          @PecoTrain Oh dear. Takes all of 2 seconds to check that one, even if your entire career wasn’t based on knowing everything going on in Rugby. Guess he thought he was too good to be Irish.

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                            (a) We are a better team than in the series last year.

                            (b) Ireland were well on top in the 1st game last year, until Sexton got a head knock and went off.

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                              stodders
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                              Mystic Meg is going with his heart, but his head is telling him differently:

                              https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/the-pool-has-been-massively-harmful-to-us-all-blacks-legend-justin-marshall-concerned-ahead-of-ireland-clash/a294767553.html

                              When it came time to making a final prediction, the legendary scrum-half was reluctant to go against his home country, even as he acknowledged that he doesn’t know if they will be good enough to beat Ireland.

                              "My prediction is New Zealand and as you can see, I’m not totally convinced that is going to happen. I hope in my heart that New Zealand can find that performance, but Ireland are the best team in the world and the only way you can beat the best team in the world is to play out of your skin. New Zealand need to find that right now.”

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                                @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                                Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                                The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

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                                Derm McCrum
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                                @PecoTrain said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                Much amusement that Gregor Paul of the NZ Herald seems to have misunderstood the long-standing joke between Irish and SA fans about Josh van der Flier being from Wicklow in South Africa. :backhand_index_pointing_down_light_skin_tone:

                                Screenshot 2023-10-11 at 15.20.41.png

                                The secret to reading Gregor Paul articles is to ensure you enjoy the fish'n'chips that they are wrapped around as the grease and torn paper will hopefully make the article a thoughtful but unfinished "what if" rather than something that should be put straight into the bin.

                                Eating fish and chips off your mobile phone? Is that a New Zealand thing now? Pretty small portions.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  (a) We are a better team than in the series last year.

                                  (b) Ireland were well on top in the 1st game last year, until Sexton got a head knock and went off.

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                                  Derm McCrum
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                                  @Tim said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  (a) We are a better team than in the series last year.

                                  (b) Ireland were well on top in the 1st game last year, until Sexton got a head knock and went off.

                                  I'm outraged. What are you suggesting should happen JJ Sexminx in the match?

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                                    @PecoTrain Oh dear. Takes all of 2 seconds to check that one, even if your entire career wasn’t based on knowing everything going on in Rugby. Guess he thought he was too good to be Irish.

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                                    Derm McCrum
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                                    @game_film said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @PecoTrain Oh dear. Takes all of 2 seconds to check that one, even if your entire career wasn’t based on knowing everything going on in Rugby. Guess he thought he was too good to be Irish.

                                    Thought it was more that he'd probably never heard of him before.... 🙂

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                                      You know you're up against it when one of your own legends is tipping the green machine:

                                      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/legendary-centre-conrad-smith-fears-for-the-all-blacks-against-ireland

                                      "I’d love to think the All Blacks have got one in us to get one over the Irish, but it’s a game that if it was played 10 times, the All Blacks could win three or four."

                                      He must have been speaking to @Dodge 😄

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                                      Steven Harris
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                                      @stodders great to see a former All Black great saying what many of us are thinking

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                                        We’ve got Brodie Retallick. They haven’t.

                                        Keep the faith!

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                                        • S stodders

                                          @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                                          So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                                          Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

                                          44f4f48b-b0b4-48dc-aef4-c368eaf91681-image.png

                                          Image taken from this post on X:

                                          https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

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                                          @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

                                          So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

                                          Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

                                          44f4f48b-b0b4-48dc-aef4-c368eaf91681-image.png

                                          Image taken from this post on X:

                                          https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

                                          That is very interesting to see just how many minutes the Ireland top team have had. Shows how important their core players are but also shows why they are so well drilled and organised, they play a shitload of minutes together which simply can't be earnt on the training field. I'm surprised Ioane has only played 172 minutes in 4 games compared to 259 for ringrose or 320 for Aki.

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