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All Blacks 2024

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  • S SBW1

    @Punch_up It would be a silly move to let Joe go, he is largely responsible for turning around the fortunes of the All Blacks in 2022 and 2023, plus he also has a lot of intel on the All Blacks. If Razor doens't workout, surely he may need some backup.

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    @SBW1 Yup, 100% agree. NZR need to ask themselves if there's some sort of rule that they can only retain one experienced, innovative senior coach at a time. They could retain both Sir Wayne AND Joe, you know.

    NZ Rugby is becoming a lot like Aus Cricket in that there was a prolonged period where they exported a lot of exprienced coaching talent followed by a period where less experienced coaches had to steer their national team.Not quite there yet, but...

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      A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

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        A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

        A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

        Joe will sort them out,
        A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

          Joe will sort them out,
          A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

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          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

          Joe will sort them out,
          A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

          Has he signed?

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            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

            Joe will sort them out,
            A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

            Has he signed?

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            @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

            Joe will sort them out,
            A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

            Has he signed?

            Nope just rumours

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

              Joe will sort them out,
              A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

              Has he signed?

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

              A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

              Joe will sort them out,
              A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

              Has he signed?

              No just stirring, but they after after him.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

                Joe will sort them out,
                A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

                Has he signed?

                No just stirring, but they after after him.

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                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

                Joe will sort them out,
                A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

                Has he signed?

                No just stirring, but they after after him.

                I thought he wanted to stay at home due to his son's medical issues?

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

                  Joe will sort them out,
                  A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

                  Has he signed?

                  No just stirring, but they after after him.

                  I thought he wanted to stay at home due to his son's medical issues?

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  A strong Wallaby team is a good thing for NZ Rugby

                  Joe will sort them out,
                  A strong Australian rugby scene is very vital to NZ rugby with out it SR,Rugby Championship and Bedisloe will just fade away and will become things that no one really cares about.

                  Has he signed?

                  No just stirring, but they after after him.

                  I thought he wanted to stay at home due to his son's medical issues?

                  Australia is pretty close to home, wether he takes up the role or not who knows,but Australia Rugby are chasing him.

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                    Must be an AB camp of some form happening.

                    https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNcVUcKX/

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                      Players in camp: Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Ethan Blackadder, Finlay Christie, Caleb Clarke, Ethan de Groot, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Damian McKenzie, Emoni Narawa, Fletcher Newell, Dalton Papali'i, Cam Roigard, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Mark Tele'a, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tupou Vaa'i, Tamaiti Williams.

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                      • M Mr Fish

                        Players in camp: Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Ethan Blackadder, Finlay Christie, Caleb Clarke, Ethan de Groot, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Damian McKenzie, Emoni Narawa, Fletcher Newell, Dalton Papali'i, Cam Roigard, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Mark Tele'a, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tupou Vaa'i, Tamaiti Williams.

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                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                        Players in camp: Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Ethan Blackadder, Finlay Christie, Caleb Clarke, Ethan de Groot, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown, Tyrel Lomax, Damian McKenzie, Emoni Narawa, Fletcher Newell, Dalton Papali'i, Cam Roigard, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Mark Tele'a, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tupou Vaa'i, Tamaiti Williams.

                        0ffe0c17-325c-4ee9-a718-3d83b0056195-image.png Plus ca change.....

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                          22 - not even a full squad.

                          Omissions immediately apparent to me include:

                          • Lord (not RWC squad)
                          • Finau (not RWC squad)

                          Others?

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            22 - not even a full squad.

                            Omissions immediately apparent to me include:

                            • Lord (not RWC squad)
                            • Finau (not RWC squad)

                            Others?

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                            @booboo yeah looks to be those that were in the last AB squad. Maybe the others have been spoken to individually and given their own "plan"?

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                              @booboo yeah looks to be those that were in the last AB squad. Maybe the others have been spoken to individually and given their own "plan"?

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                              @booboo yeah looks to be those that were in the last AB squad. Maybe the others have been spoken to individually and given their own "plan"?

                              Some will be still on leave, they come back in dribs and drabs. The change will be pushed by what Razor and Co see during SR I guess

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                22 - not even a full squad.

                                Omissions immediately apparent to me include:

                                • Lord (not RWC squad)
                                • Finau (not RWC squad)

                                Others?

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                                @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
                                OR
                                Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the πŸ‘ or the πŸ‘Ž as he walks past them on the training field.

                                Example:
                                Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

                                Finlay: "But coach..."

                                Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

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                                  im sure i read somewhere this camp was for the world cup aquad still in nz.

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                                  • P Punch_up

                                    @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
                                    OR
                                    Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the πŸ‘ or the πŸ‘Ž as he walks past them on the training field.

                                    Example:
                                    Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

                                    Finlay: "But coach..."

                                    Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

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                                    @Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                    @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
                                    OR
                                    Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the πŸ‘ or the πŸ‘Ž as he walks past them on the training field.

                                    Example:
                                    Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

                                    Finlay: "But coach..."

                                    Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

                                    It makes perfect sense to start with a basis of a squad formed from the guys that were there.

                                    All would have reasonable expectations.

                                    Just trying to work out if anyone from last year missed out. Lord and Finau the only two I could think of.

                                    And whilst I agree re Christie Razor has to find 2x better 9s. They're probably there but let Super take it's course.

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                                      @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
                                      OR
                                      Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the πŸ‘ or the πŸ‘Ž as he walks past them on the training field.

                                      Example:
                                      Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

                                      Finlay: "But coach..."

                                      Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

                                      It makes perfect sense to start with a basis of a squad formed from the guys that were there.

                                      All would have reasonable expectations.

                                      Just trying to work out if anyone from last year missed out. Lord and Finau the only two I could think of.

                                      And whilst I agree re Christie Razor has to find 2x better 9s. They're probably there but let Super take it's course.

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                                      Punch_up
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                                      @booboo I agree, but I couldn't resist having a little fun at Christie's expense.πŸ˜”

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                                          He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

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