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  • DuluthD Duluth

    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/why-joe-schmidt-cannot-rely-on-the-brumbies-creaking-tight-five/

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    #4906

    @Duluth Apart from the players, perhaps the decline can also be attributed to the change in coaching staff with John Ulugia now scrum coach?

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @Duluth Apart from the players, perhaps the decline can also be attributed to the change in coaching staff with John Ulugia now scrum coach?

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      #4907

      @antipodean

      Maybe that explains part of it?

      It does seem like a change in emphasis for some reason though. One thing the article didn't touch is the rolling maul.

      They used to be so efficient at scoring from mauls. This year they didn't attempt it as frequently as other teams.. often they would set up a dummy maul and have a runner around the fringes.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Duluth Apart from the players, perhaps the decline can also be attributed to the change in coaching staff with John Ulugia now scrum coach?

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        #4908

        @antipodean and the fact Laurie Fisher is at the table for Schmidt

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @antipodean

          Maybe that explains part of it?

          It does seem like a change in emphasis for some reason though. One thing the article didn't touch is the rolling maul.

          They used to be so efficient at scoring from mauls. This year they didn't attempt it as frequently as other teams.. often they would set up a dummy maul and have a runner around the fringes.

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          KiwiMurph
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          #4909

          @Duluth said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          They used to be so efficient at scoring from mauls.

          They used to be coached by McKellar and Fisher

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            #4910

            The change in emphasis is easier to explain: Larkham wanted the Brumbies to become a more rounded team, in part to help attract more people to watching and supporting. That's straight from the horse's mouth.

            I think it shows a lack of maturity and on-field leadership that they didn't keep a strength of theirs to utilise when appropriate.

            A lot of people around here believe the loss of Laurie Fisher is obvious in this regard and should be a positive for Schmidt's Wallabies.

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              #4911

              https://twitter.com/OBBY001/status/1803519496906481841

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              • antipodeanA Offline
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                #4912

                Wisemantel? Replacing DC with him? What a clown show.

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                • ChrisC Offline
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                  #4913

                  What a shit show the Waratahs are atm.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    What a shit show the Waratahs are atm.

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                    #4914

                    @Chris yep. Handing over the keys to RA was meant to solve a few problems, but that hasn't coalesced yet. And maybe it won't while we continue to have 4 governing bodies in community rugby and 4 different schools competitions.

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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                      Daffy Jaffy
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                      #4915

                      https://www.rugby.com.au/news/andrew-kellaway-returns-to-nsw-waratahs-after-resgining-with-australian-rugby-2024620

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Tim
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                        #4916

                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/20/exclusive-wallabies-suffer-fresh-blow-on-eve-of-schmidts-first-squad-with-star-lock-heading-to-france/

                        Rodda gone.

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                        • NTAN Offline
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                          #4917

                          Didn't want to go to the Waratahs either, I see.

                          Fair enough.

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                          • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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                            #4918

                            Joe's first Wallabies squad is due out today. Should be interesting.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #4919

                              https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/21/wallaby-squad-key-forward-to-miss-july-tests-through-injury-as-schmidt-set-to-name-first-selection/

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                                Machpants
                                wrote on last edited by Machpants
                                #4920

                                Wallabies squad (Wallaby number, first Australian Rugby club)

                                Forwards (21)
                                Allan Alaalatoa (#896), West Harbour Juniors)
                                Angus Blyth (uncapped, Casuarina Beach Rugby Club)
                                Charlie Cale (uncapped, Beecroft Junior Rugby Club)
                                Matt Faessler (#969, USQ Saints)
                                Nick Frost (#953, Hornsby Lions)
                                Langi Gleeson (#960, Harbord Harlequins)
                                Alex Hodgman (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                Tom Hooper (#964, Bathurst Bulldogs)
                                Isaac Kailea (uncapped, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                Fraser McReight (#937, Albany Creek Brumbies)
                                Josh Nasser (uncapped, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))
                                Zane Nonggorr (#966, Gold Coast Eagles)
                                Billy Pollard (#958, Lindfield Junior Rugby Club)
                                Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (#914, Randwick)
                                Ryan Smith (uncapped, Caboolture Snakes)
                                James Slipper (#843, Bond Pirates)
                                Taniela Tupou (#917, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                Rob Valetini (#929, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                Jeremy Williams (uncapped, Wahroonga Tigers)
                                Harry Wilson (#933, Gunnedah Red Devils)
                                Liam Wright (#928, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))

                                Backs (17)
                                Kurtley Beale (#836, Northern Suburbs (Sydney))
                                Filipo Daugunu (#931, Wests Rugby Club (Brisbane))
                                Ben Donaldson (#962, Clovelly Eagles)
                                David Feliuai (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                Josh Flook (uncapped, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                Jake Gordon (#925, Canterbury Juniors)
                                Len Ikitau (#944, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                Andrew Kellaway (#943, Hunters Hill Rugby Club)
                                Darby Lancaster (uncapped, Kempsey Cannonballs)
                                Noah Lolesio (#934, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                Tom Lynagh (uncapped, University of Queensland)
                                Tate McDermott (#936, Flinders Rugby Club)
                                Hunter Paisami (#932, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                Dylan Pietsch (uncapped, Leeton Phantoms)
                                Hamish Stewart (uncapped, Toowoomba Bears)
                                Nic White (#875, Maitland Blacks)
                                Tom Wright (#939, Clovelly Eagles)

                                Unavailable for selection

                                Recovering from injury
                                Angus Bell
                                Harry Johnson-Holmes
                                Max Jorgensen
                                Rob Leota
                                Lachlan Lonergan
                                David Porecki
                                Blake Schoupp

                                Australia Sevens
                                Corey Toole

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                                • TimT Away
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                                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/21/wallaby-squad-key-forward-to-miss-july-tests-through-injury-as-schmidt-set-to-name-first-selection/

                                  Wallabies squad (Wallaby number, first Australian Rugby club)

                                  Forwards (21)
                                  Allan Alaalatoa (#896), West Harbour Juniors)
                                  Angus Blyth (uncapped, Casuarina Beach Rugby Club)
                                  Charlie Cale (uncapped, Beecroft Junior Rugby Club)
                                  Matt Faessler (#969, USQ Saints)
                                  Nick Frost (#953, Hornsby Lions)
                                  Langi Gleeson (#960, Harbord Harlequins)
                                  Alex Hodgman (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                  Tom Hooper (#964, Bathurst Bulldogs)
                                  Isaac Kailea (uncapped, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                  Fraser McReight (#937, Albany Creek Brumbies)
                                  Josh Nasser (uncapped, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))
                                  Zane Nonggorr (#966, Gold Coast Eagles)
                                  Billy Pollard (#958, Lindfield Junior Rugby Club)
                                  Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (#914, Randwick)
                                  Ryan Smith (uncapped, Caboolture Snakes)
                                  James Slipper (#843, Bond Pirates)
                                  Taniela Tupou (#917, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                  Rob Valetini (#929, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                  Jeremy Williams (uncapped, Wahroonga Tigers)
                                  Harry Wilson (#933, Gunnedah Red Devils)
                                  Liam Wright (#928, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))

                                  Backs (17)
                                  Kurtley Beale (#836, Northern Suburbs (Sydney))
                                  Filipo Daugunu (#931, Wests Rugby Club (Brisbane))
                                  Ben Donaldson (#962, Clovelly Eagles)
                                  David Feliuai (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                  Josh Flook (uncapped, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                  Jake Gordon (#925, Canterbury Juniors)
                                  Len Ikitau (#944, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                  Andrew Kellaway (#943, Hunters Hill Rugby Club)
                                  Darby Lancaster (uncapped, Kempsey Cannonballs)
                                  Noah Lolesio (#934, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                  Tom Lynagh (uncapped, University of Queensland)
                                  Tate McDermott (#936, Flinders Rugby Club)
                                  Hunter Paisami (#932, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                  Dylan Pietsch (uncapped, Leeton Phantoms)
                                  Hamish Stewart (uncapped, Toowoomba Bears)
                                  Nic White (#875, Maitland Blacks)
                                  Tom Wright (#939, Clovelly Eagles)

                                  Unavailable for selection

                                  Recovering from injury
                                  Angus Bell
                                  Harry Johnson-Holmes
                                  Max Jorgensen
                                  Rob Leota
                                  Lachlan Lonergan
                                  David Porecki
                                  Blake Schoupp

                                  Australia Sevens
                                  Corey Toole

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Online
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                                    Kiwiwomble
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                                    #4922

                                    only 3 starting in Melbourne Junior clubs...and all from Quins

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      #4923

                                      White and Gordon are preferred to Ryan Lonergan. I suppose they had to pick Gordon because he wasn't granted an early release.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/21/wallaby-squad-key-forward-to-miss-july-tests-through-injury-as-schmidt-set-to-name-first-selection/

                                        Wallabies squad (Wallaby number, first Australian Rugby club)

                                        Forwards (21)
                                        Allan Alaalatoa (#896), West Harbour Juniors)
                                        Angus Blyth (uncapped, Casuarina Beach Rugby Club)
                                        Charlie Cale (uncapped, Beecroft Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Matt Faessler (#969, USQ Saints)
                                        Nick Frost (#953, Hornsby Lions)
                                        Langi Gleeson (#960, Harbord Harlequins)
                                        Alex Hodgman (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                        Tom Hooper (#964, Bathurst Bulldogs)
                                        Isaac Kailea (uncapped, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Fraser McReight (#937, Albany Creek Brumbies)
                                        Josh Nasser (uncapped, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))
                                        Zane Nonggorr (#966, Gold Coast Eagles)
                                        Billy Pollard (#958, Lindfield Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (#914, Randwick)
                                        Ryan Smith (uncapped, Caboolture Snakes)
                                        James Slipper (#843, Bond Pirates)
                                        Taniela Tupou (#917, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                        Rob Valetini (#929, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Jeremy Williams (uncapped, Wahroonga Tigers)
                                        Harry Wilson (#933, Gunnedah Red Devils)
                                        Liam Wright (#928, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))

                                        Backs (17)
                                        Kurtley Beale (#836, Northern Suburbs (Sydney))
                                        Filipo Daugunu (#931, Wests Rugby Club (Brisbane))
                                        Ben Donaldson (#962, Clovelly Eagles)
                                        David Feliuai (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                        Josh Flook (uncapped, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                        Jake Gordon (#925, Canterbury Juniors)
                                        Len Ikitau (#944, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                        Andrew Kellaway (#943, Hunters Hill Rugby Club)
                                        Darby Lancaster (uncapped, Kempsey Cannonballs)
                                        Noah Lolesio (#934, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                        Tom Lynagh (uncapped, University of Queensland)
                                        Tate McDermott (#936, Flinders Rugby Club)
                                        Hunter Paisami (#932, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Dylan Pietsch (uncapped, Leeton Phantoms)
                                        Hamish Stewart (uncapped, Toowoomba Bears)
                                        Nic White (#875, Maitland Blacks)
                                        Tom Wright (#939, Clovelly Eagles)

                                        Unavailable for selection

                                        Recovering from injury
                                        Angus Bell
                                        Harry Johnson-Holmes
                                        Max Jorgensen
                                        Rob Leota
                                        Lachlan Lonergan
                                        David Porecki
                                        Blake Schoupp

                                        Australia Sevens
                                        Corey Toole

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                                        Canes4life
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                                        #4924

                                        @Tim said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/21/wallaby-squad-key-forward-to-miss-july-tests-through-injury-as-schmidt-set-to-name-first-selection/

                                        Wallabies squad (Wallaby number, first Australian Rugby club)

                                        Forwards (21)
                                        Allan Alaalatoa (#896), West Harbour Juniors)
                                        Angus Blyth (uncapped, Casuarina Beach Rugby Club)
                                        Charlie Cale (uncapped, Beecroft Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Matt Faessler (#969, USQ Saints)
                                        Nick Frost (#953, Hornsby Lions)
                                        Langi Gleeson (#960, Harbord Harlequins)
                                        Alex Hodgman (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                        Tom Hooper (#964, Bathurst Bulldogs)
                                        Isaac Kailea (uncapped, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Fraser McReight (#937, Albany Creek Brumbies)
                                        Josh Nasser (uncapped, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))
                                        Zane Nonggorr (#966, Gold Coast Eagles)
                                        Billy Pollard (#958, Lindfield Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (#914, Randwick)
                                        Ryan Smith (uncapped, Caboolture Snakes)
                                        James Slipper (#843, Bond Pirates)
                                        Taniela Tupou (#917, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                        Rob Valetini (#929, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Jeremy Williams (uncapped, Wahroonga Tigers)
                                        Harry Wilson (#933, Gunnedah Red Devils)
                                        Liam Wright (#928, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))

                                        Backs (17)
                                        Kurtley Beale (#836, Northern Suburbs (Sydney))
                                        Filipo Daugunu (#931, Wests Rugby Club (Brisbane))
                                        Ben Donaldson (#962, Clovelly Eagles)
                                        David Feliuai (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                        Josh Flook (uncapped, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                        Jake Gordon (#925, Canterbury Juniors)
                                        Len Ikitau (#944, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                        Andrew Kellaway (#943, Hunters Hill Rugby Club)
                                        Darby Lancaster (uncapped, Kempsey Cannonballs)
                                        Noah Lolesio (#934, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                        Tom Lynagh (uncapped, University of Queensland)
                                        Tate McDermott (#936, Flinders Rugby Club)
                                        Hunter Paisami (#932, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                        Dylan Pietsch (uncapped, Leeton Phantoms)
                                        Hamish Stewart (uncapped, Toowoomba Bears)
                                        Nic White (#875, Maitland Blacks)
                                        Tom Wright (#939, Clovelly Eagles)

                                        Unavailable for selection

                                        Recovering from injury
                                        Angus Bell
                                        Harry Johnson-Holmes
                                        Max Jorgensen
                                        Rob Leota
                                        Lachlan Lonergan
                                        David Porecki
                                        Blake Schoupp

                                        Australia Sevens
                                        Corey Toole

                                        I can't see this lot troubling us this year. Those forwards look fairly underwhelming. Josh Canham from the Rebels is unlucky to miss out. Many had him as a starting lock for the Wallabies this year.

                                        Also, how does the Junkyard Dog not make this team? I don't care if he's young, he's certainly shown he's better than some of the guys selected.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Tim said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                          https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/21/wallaby-squad-key-forward-to-miss-july-tests-through-injury-as-schmidt-set-to-name-first-selection/

                                          Wallabies squad (Wallaby number, first Australian Rugby club)

                                          Forwards (21)
                                          Allan Alaalatoa (#896), West Harbour Juniors)
                                          Angus Blyth (uncapped, Casuarina Beach Rugby Club)
                                          Charlie Cale (uncapped, Beecroft Junior Rugby Club)
                                          Matt Faessler (#969, USQ Saints)
                                          Nick Frost (#953, Hornsby Lions)
                                          Langi Gleeson (#960, Harbord Harlequins)
                                          Alex Hodgman (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                          Tom Hooper (#964, Bathurst Bulldogs)
                                          Isaac Kailea (uncapped, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                          Fraser McReight (#937, Albany Creek Brumbies)
                                          Josh Nasser (uncapped, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))
                                          Zane Nonggorr (#966, Gold Coast Eagles)
                                          Billy Pollard (#958, Lindfield Junior Rugby Club)
                                          Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (#914, Randwick)
                                          Ryan Smith (uncapped, Caboolture Snakes)
                                          James Slipper (#843, Bond Pirates)
                                          Taniela Tupou (#917, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                          Rob Valetini (#929, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                          Jeremy Williams (uncapped, Wahroonga Tigers)
                                          Harry Wilson (#933, Gunnedah Red Devils)
                                          Liam Wright (#928, Easts Rugby (Brisbane))

                                          Backs (17)
                                          Kurtley Beale (#836, Northern Suburbs (Sydney))
                                          Filipo Daugunu (#931, Wests Rugby Club (Brisbane))
                                          Ben Donaldson (#962, Clovelly Eagles)
                                          David Feliuai (uncapped, Sunnybank Dragons)
                                          Josh Flook (uncapped, Brothers Rugby (Brisbane))
                                          Jake Gordon (#925, Canterbury Juniors)
                                          Len Ikitau (#944, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                          Andrew Kellaway (#943, Hunters Hill Rugby Club)
                                          Darby Lancaster (uncapped, Kempsey Cannonballs)
                                          Noah Lolesio (#934, Tuggeranong Vikings)
                                          Tom Lynagh (uncapped, University of Queensland)
                                          Tate McDermott (#936, Flinders Rugby Club)
                                          Hunter Paisami (#932, Harlequin Junior Rugby Club)
                                          Dylan Pietsch (uncapped, Leeton Phantoms)
                                          Hamish Stewart (uncapped, Toowoomba Bears)
                                          Nic White (#875, Maitland Blacks)
                                          Tom Wright (#939, Clovelly Eagles)

                                          Unavailable for selection

                                          Recovering from injury
                                          Angus Bell
                                          Harry Johnson-Holmes
                                          Max Jorgensen
                                          Rob Leota
                                          Lachlan Lonergan
                                          David Porecki
                                          Blake Schoupp

                                          Australia Sevens
                                          Corey Toole

                                          I can't see this lot troubling us this year. Those forwards look fairly underwhelming. Josh Canham from the Rebels is unlucky to miss out. Many had him as a starting lock for the Wallabies this year.

                                          Also, how does the Junkyard Dog not make this team? I don't care if he's young, he's certainly shown he's better than some of the guys selected.

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                                          @Canes4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                          Also, how does the Junkyard Dog not make this team?

                                          Inappropriate nickname for a winger

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