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All Blacks v Ireland II

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  • jeggaJ jegga

    Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86506178/ireland-lock-devin-toner-says-theyve-banished-the-mystique-the-all-blacks-had

    Any word on when the teams named?

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    @jegga said in Ireland II:

    Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86506178/ireland-lock-devin-toner-says-theyve-banished-the-mystique-the-all-blacks-had

    That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.

    Fuck off, Stuff.

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      Whitelock came through last 2 trainings apparently, so signs are promising he and BBBR will resume their partnership in the 2nd row

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        BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.

        It's a risk.

        Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?

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        • RapidoR Rapido

          BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.

          It's a risk.

          Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?

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          #101

          @Rapido said in Ireland II:

          BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.

          It's a risk.

          Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?

          Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.

          BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.

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            TAB Odds:

            Match Result: New Zealand $1.16 / Ireland $5.10 / Draw $26.00
            Head to Head: New Zealand $1.15 / Ireland $5.00
            Points Start New Zealand -15.5 $1.87 / Ireland +15.5 $1.87

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              ABs by 12 and under at $3.70 sounds a good option to me....

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              • MokeyM Mokey

                @jegga said in Ireland II:

                Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.

                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86506178/ireland-lock-devin-toner-says-theyve-banished-the-mystique-the-all-blacks-had

                That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.

                Fuck off, Stuff.

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                #104

                @Mokey said in Ireland II:

                That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.

                Fuck off, Stuff.

                god they're a fucking disgrace.

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                  No Quarter
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                  Mystique is Aura's ugly sister. No big loss there.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Rapido said in Ireland II:

                    BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.

                    It's a risk.

                    Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?

                    Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.

                    BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.

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                    Rapido
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                    #106

                    @Crucial said in Ireland II:

                    @Rapido said in Ireland II:

                    BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.

                    It's a risk.

                    Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?

                    Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.

                    BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.

                    Yeah so would I, tbh. The difference being he has actually played some minutes. But it should be acknowledged he was awful and there is risk selecting him.

                    Whitelock shouldn't be in the 23 IMO.

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                      @RoninWC @Crucial the ABs have been trying to shake the arrogant tag, only selecting 22 won't help that.... 🙂

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @RoninWC @Crucial the ABs have been trying to shake the arrogant tag, only selecting 22 won't help that.... 🙂

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in Ireland II:

                        @RoninWC @Crucial the ABs have been trying to shake the arrogant tag, only selecting 22 won't help that.... 🙂

                        What year are we in again? Where are those pills?

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                        • MokeyM Mokey

                          @jegga said in Ireland II:

                          Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.

                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86506178/ireland-lock-devin-toner-says-theyve-banished-the-mystique-the-all-blacks-had

                          That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.

                          Fuck off, Stuff.

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                          #109

                          @Mokey said in Ireland II:

                          @jegga said in Ireland II:

                          Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.

                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/86506178/ireland-lock-devin-toner-says-theyve-banished-the-mystique-the-all-blacks-had

                          That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.

                          Fuck off, Stuff.

                          He's actually pretty humble in a "aw shucks, we actually beat them!" kind of way and ya can't help but be happy for him on some level......

                          But no, Stuff headlines would have you believe the big fella is running through the streets of Dublin chanting about the mighty beast they've slain and that Ireland are now the best Rugby team that's ever played Rugby in the history of all Rugby.

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                          • RoninWCR RoninWC

                            My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                            1. W. Crockett
                            2. D. Coles
                            3. O. Franks
                            4. B. Retallick
                            5. S. Whitelock
                            6. J. Kaino
                            7. S. Cane
                            8. K Read
                            9. A. Smith
                            10. B. Barrett
                            11. J. Savea
                            12. A. Lienart-Brown
                            13. M. Fekitoa
                            14. I. Dagg
                            15. B. Smith

                            Reserves
                            16. C. Taylor
                            17. J. Moody
                            18. C. Faumuina
                            19. L. Squire
                            20. A. Savea
                            21. T. Perenara
                            22. L. Sopoaga

                            Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                            I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                            And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

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                            @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                            My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                            1. W. Crockett
                            2. D. Coles
                            3. O. Franks
                            4. B. Retallick
                            5. S. Whitelock
                            6. J. Kaino
                            7. S. Cane
                            8. K Read
                            9. A. Smith
                            10. B. Barrett
                            11. J. Savea
                            12. A. Lienart-Brown
                            13. M. Fekitoa
                            14. I. Dagg
                            15. B. Smith

                            Reserves
                            16. C. Taylor
                            17. J. Moody
                            18. C. Faumuina
                            19. L. Squire
                            20. A. Savea
                            21. T. Perenara
                            22. L. Sopoaga

                            Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                            I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                            And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                            @ACT-Crusader
                            Thank you for pointing out my arrogance and although I'm pretty sure we can beat the Irish with 22, I think I'll go for the full allotment of 23 just to make sure 😉

                            Therefore, with great fanfare I shall announce my No. 23

                            1. S. Taminivalu (or R. Crotty if he's available but unsure of the injury status) just thinking that R. Ioane is just a little young for this but there isn't much between Seta and Rieko.

                            @Crucial over to you now...

                            p.s. Actually after a day or two of contemplation, I'm wavering in my selection of Squire and am leaning towards going with a replacement 2nd rower and in that case I would go with big Patrick.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              Mystique is Aura's ugly sister. No big loss there.

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                              @No-Quarter said in Ireland II:

                              Mystique is Aura's ugly sister. No big loss there.

                              ahem

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                                I think I might be onto something. While we were in Chicago I think Aura might have made a trip to London. I came across an article in which Mike Brown said that England are trying to build an Aura !

                                And as you can see in Mariner's post, Mystique is obviously a tart and totally distracted the boys.

                                Bloody Eddie Jones is always gobbing off about not copying the ABs but here he is trying to pinch our Aura. Now we know why Toner referred to her as Mystique but the question is how did he know it was Mystique and we didn't.

                                Keeping track of these minxes is a job and a half.

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                                  mariner4life
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                                  #113

                                  Mystique is her stage name

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                                  • No QuarterN Offline
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                                    No Quarter
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                                    @mariner4life touché

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                                    • RapidoR Rapido

                                      @Crucial said in Ireland II:

                                      @Rapido said in Ireland II:

                                      BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.

                                      It's a risk.

                                      Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?

                                      Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.

                                      BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.

                                      Yeah so would I, tbh. The difference being he has actually played some minutes. But it should be acknowledged he was awful and there is risk selecting him.

                                      Whitelock shouldn't be in the 23 IMO.

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                                      @Rapido if he is fit, no way they leave him out.

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                                        Rangi
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                                        #116

                                        So Mariner does that mean Toner met her in a club in Chicago in game week.
                                        Did Schmidt know about this ?

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                                        • RoninWCR RoninWC

                                          @RoninWC said in Ireland II:

                                          My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:

                                          1. W. Crockett
                                          2. D. Coles
                                          3. O. Franks
                                          4. B. Retallick
                                          5. S. Whitelock
                                          6. J. Kaino
                                          7. S. Cane
                                          8. K Read
                                          9. A. Smith
                                          10. B. Barrett
                                          11. J. Savea
                                          12. A. Lienart-Brown
                                          13. M. Fekitoa
                                          14. I. Dagg
                                          15. B. Smith

                                          Reserves
                                          16. C. Taylor
                                          17. J. Moody
                                          18. C. Faumuina
                                          19. L. Squire
                                          20. A. Savea
                                          21. T. Perenara
                                          22. L. Sopoaga

                                          Personally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
                                          I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.

                                          And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.

                                          @ACT-Crusader
                                          Thank you for pointing out my arrogance and although I'm pretty sure we can beat the Irish with 22, I think I'll go for the full allotment of 23 just to make sure 😉

                                          Therefore, with great fanfare I shall announce my No. 23

                                          1. S. Taminivalu (or R. Crotty if he's available but unsure of the injury status) just thinking that R. Ioane is just a little young for this but there isn't much between Seta and Rieko.

                                          @Crucial over to you now...

                                          p.s. Actually after a day or two of contemplation, I'm wavering in my selection of Squire and am leaning towards going with a replacement 2nd rower and in that case I would go with big Patrick.

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                                          @RoninWC I think they'll select Naholo on the bench and use Smith as the back-up centre. They've done that earlier this season.

                                          As for the starting XV, the team @Crucial listed looks right to me, provided Whitelock is good to go. If Whitelock isn't 100% there is no reason to put him on the bench - so Pat T starts. Squire was woeful on Chicago so would not make my 23 on form. Barrett in the reserves as insurance for BBBR and to provide specialist cover.

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