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Crusaders v Blues

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    Some things in life never seem to change !!!

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      Christ, what a choke. Never committed to attack in the second half.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        woulda taken the points...?

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        @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Blues:

        woulda taken the points...?

        but what do I know!

        Cant help but be impressed with the Crusaders, gee if they can play an 80 minute game!

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          The Blues are a dumb team. Why try to run it everytime from inside your own 22? Play for territory and make an ordinary Crusaders backline beat you. Giving away penalties allowed the Crusaders to dominate through their lineout and scrum.

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            Pulu was terrible in the second half. Did nothing but appeal for penalties. Another Blues season over.

            NZRU must step in now. Provide a cash injection for player retention and sign a top notch coach. Can't keep losing players like Piutau and Luatua and succeed.

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              I'd have to check tape, but it looked like the refereeing didn't help the Blues once they started to do dumb shit.

              Also, do the Blues have a forward coach? Why does Parson get to play at this level? What exactly does Akira do when he comes on? How is Prattley a professional rugby player? Guyton should be made to walk home.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Blues:

                @Chris-B. and the Blues look to be targetting there too.

                Yeah - I think we're fucked this week. Too many holes to fill.

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                @Chris-B. said in Crusaders v Blues:

                @taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Blues:

                @Chris-B. and the Blues look to be targetting there too.

                Yeah - I think we're fucked this week. Too many holes to fill.

                No faith!

                Wow. Just wow. We've recruited or are developing some of the depth that Toddy never did. Or perhaps, some of the guys Toddy recruited have just come of age.

                Sam Whitelock was huge in that game. So, actually, was Mitch Hunt.

                Crotty, Douglas, Samu, Romano, Barrett, Alaalatoa, Crockett, Funnell, Bridge, Bateman, Havili, Drummond. A whole lot of young guys and second stringers.

                Three weeks in a row we've come from nowhere to win.

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                • TimT Tim

                  Pulu was terrible in the second half. Did nothing but appeal for penalties. Another Blues season over.

                  NZRU must step in now. Provide a cash injection for player retention and sign a top notch coach. Can't keep losing players like Piutau and Luatua and succeed.

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                  @Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  Pulu was terrible in the second half. Did nothing but appeal for penalties. Another Blues season over.

                  NZRU must step in now. Provide a cash injection for player retention and sign a top notch coach. Can't keep losing players like Piutau and Luatua and succeed.

                  The Blues shouldn't get special help. Their poor performances are their own fault.

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                    @Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                    Pulu was terrible in the second half. Did nothing but appeal for penalties. Another Blues season over.

                    NZRU must step in now. Provide a cash injection for player retention and sign a top notch coach. Can't keep losing players like Piutau and Luatua and succeed.

                    The Blues shouldn't get special help. Their poor performances are their own fault.

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                    @hydro11 The NZRU has no reason to tolerate consistent failure, especially in their biggest market. They're not a science experiment, they're a business.

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                      Cracking game! Very predictable 2nd half but much better Blues performance. The midfield out and outside backs were excellent - even Collins!

                      You have to remember the Crusaders have 7 All Black tight 5 players - it told in the end.

                      How the fuck did Simon Hickey keep Mitch Hunt on the bench 2 years ago for Auckland - Paul Feeney you are a fucking moron.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @hydro11 The NZRU has no reason to tolerate consistent failure, especially in their biggest market. They're not a science experiment, they're a business.

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                        @Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @hydro11 The NZRU has no reason to tolerate consistent failure, especially in their biggest market. They're not a science experiment, they're a business.

                        The Blues do well in general. They just suck against New Zealand teams and the competition punishes them for that. Making the Blues do better will just be at the expense of other New Zealand teams and it is something that wouldn't be afforded to another franchise.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          Cracking game! Very predictable 2nd half but much better Blues performance. The midfield out and outside backs were excellent - even Collins!

                          You have to remember the Crusaders have 7 All Black tight 5 players - it told in the end.

                          How the fuck did Simon Hickey keep Mitch Hunt on the bench 2 years ago for Auckland - Paul Feeney you are a fucking moron.

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                          muddyriver
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                          @KiwiMurph a player can get a whole lot better in 2 years. Hunt wasn't even starting 10 for Ta$man last year. Feeny had the Auckland backline humming

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                            @Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                            @hydro11 The NZRU has no reason to tolerate consistent failure, especially in their biggest market. They're not a science experiment, they're a business.

                            The Blues do well in general. They just suck against New Zealand teams and the competition punishes them for that. Making the Blues do better will just be at the expense of other New Zealand teams and it is something that wouldn't be afforded to another franchise.

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                            @hydro11 Do you think that the NZRU is a disinterested observer dedicated to objective analysis of provincial organisations?

                            Their objective is to maximise the performance of NZ Rugby. That means that they have to deliver performance for their largest market.

                            They run the game. They contract the players. Tolerating continual non-performance in their largest market is negligence. What kind of competent business would operate like that?

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                              @hydro11 Do you think that the NZRU is a disinterested observer dedicated to objective analysis of provincial organisations?

                              Their objective is to maximise the performance of NZ Rugby. That means that they have to deliver performance for their largest market.

                              They run the game. They contract the players. Tolerating continual non-performance in their largest market is negligence. What kind of competent business would operate like that?

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                              @Tim said in Crusaders v Blues:

                              @hydro11 Do you think that the NZRU is a disinterested observer dedicated to objective analysis of provincial organisations?

                              Their objective is to maximise the performance of NZ Rugby. That means that they have to deliver performance for their largest market.

                              They run the game. They contract the players. Tolerating continual non-performance in their largest market is negligence. What kind of competent business would operate like that?

                              In what sort of competition does the national governing body intervene to ensure that their favourite team wins?

                              It would be like the NRL letting the Storm breach the salary cap because they want to grow the game in Melbourne. It's preposterous.

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                                I did not say win the competition. I said ensure competence. You have created a strawman there.

                                NZ Rugby could not be more different to the NRL. There are many franchises in Sydney, not one. Players are centrally contracted by the NZRU. They have near total control of everything. They cannot abdicate responsibility in their largest market.

                                If they want to keep losing ground to soccer in Auckland, they are going the right way.

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                                  Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:

                                  1 - first choice/AB
                                  2 - first choice/AB
                                  3 - first choice/AB
                                  4 - first choice/AB
                                  5 - first choice/AB
                                  6 - first choice
                                  7 - injury replacement
                                  8 - injury replacement
                                  9 - rotating duo
                                  10 - injury replacement
                                  11 - injury replacement
                                  12 - first choice/AB
                                  13 - injury replacement (and a late one, too)
                                  14 - injury replacement
                                  15 - injury replacement

                                  Very heavy at the front, very light at the back.

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                                    Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:

                                    1 - first choice/AB
                                    2 - first choice/AB
                                    3 - first choice/AB
                                    4 - first choice/AB
                                    5 - first choice/AB
                                    6 - first choice
                                    7 - injury replacement
                                    8 - injury replacement
                                    9 - rotating duo
                                    10 - injury replacement
                                    11 - injury replacement
                                    12 - first choice/AB
                                    13 - injury replacement (and a late one, too)
                                    14 - injury replacement
                                    15 - injury replacement

                                    Very heavy at the front, very light at the back.

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                                    @Stargazer Given that, it's amazing that the Blues dropped their game plan to attack out wide in the second half. Tried to defend the lead and really went into their shell.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:

                                      1 - first choice/AB
                                      2 - first choice/AB
                                      3 - first choice/AB
                                      4 - first choice/AB
                                      5 - first choice/AB
                                      6 - first choice
                                      7 - injury replacement
                                      8 - injury replacement
                                      9 - rotating duo
                                      10 - injury replacement
                                      11 - injury replacement
                                      12 - first choice/AB
                                      13 - injury replacement (and a late one, too)
                                      14 - injury replacement
                                      15 - injury replacement

                                      Very heavy at the front, very light at the back.

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                                      @Stargazer said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                      Looking at the Crusaders starting line-up:

                                      1 - first choice/AB - 28
                                      2 - first choice/AB - 25
                                      3 - first choice/AB - 29
                                      4 - first choice/AB - 23
                                      5 - first choice/AB - 28
                                      6 - first choice - 25
                                      7 - injury replacement - 26
                                      8 - injury replacement - 26
                                      9 - rotating duo - 25
                                      10 - injury replacement - 21
                                      11 - injury replacement - 21
                                      12 - first choice/AB - 28
                                      13 - injury replacement (and a late one, too) - 21
                                      14 - injury replacement - 20
                                      15 - injury replacement - 22

                                      Very heavy at the front, very light at the back.

                                      It's even clearer if you look at their age!

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                                        @KiwiMurph a player can get a whole lot better in 2 years. Hunt wasn't even starting 10 for Ta$man last year. Feeny had the Auckland backline humming

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                                        What's Tom Coventry up to? He's an expert at getting the most out of his packs. Things like maul defense is his bread and butter.

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                                        • DiceD Dice

                                          What's Tom Coventry up to? He's an expert at getting the most out of his packs. Things like maul defense is his bread and butter.

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                                          @Dice said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          Tom Coventry

                                          New North Harbour coach.

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