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    My bad re funding then.. thought govt still did

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      JK
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      Another good day this morning with 2 wins. Got beaten off line (in terms of speed) by Barker on Oracle Lite but we managed to get past them mid race.

      Then a good win vs GBR.

      Been betting on these race and making good returns off it so far. Favs are usually $1.50 to $1.75 range with the only real upset so far being Oracle losing to Sweden this morning.

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      • WairauW Wairau

        Bumping this.
        Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastard

        Ben Ainslie let his ego get the better of him, red mist, twice. First, a split second decision not to give way to Barker meant he almost killed half the Japan crew. Next, he kept on sailing, and worsening the damage to his hull. Futile, destructive. World's best sailor? Not so far. That would be spitface.


        F*ck, indeed! There wss potential for broken backs, for someone being sliced open like a can of tomato and spaghetti. All live on camera.

        These boats need sensors, and when another boat is within 2m of them, it should be classed as collision for penalty. That would encourage slightly more circumspect sailing.

        Go, NZ!

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        @Wairau said in Americas Cup:

        Bumping this.
        Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastard

        That's monohull tactics. Generally multi-hulls don't cover so much and instead sail across the whole course from ley line to ley line so as to minimize the number of tacks - something multi-hulls traditionally try to avoid. So less likely to see the aggressive tacking duels and covering/giving bad air that we are used to from mono's

        Having said that I think TNZ's tacking and gybing has looked very good - much better than Oracles so it might be worth trying to get Spitball into a duel but multi's tend to be more of a drag race

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          @Wairau said in Americas Cup:

          Bumping this.
          Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastard

          That's monohull tactics. Generally multi-hulls don't cover so much and instead sail across the whole course from ley line to ley line so as to minimize the number of tacks - something multi-hulls traditionally try to avoid. So less likely to see the aggressive tacking duels and covering/giving bad air that we are used to from mono's

          Having said that I think TNZ's tacking and gybing has looked very good - much better than Oracles so it might be worth trying to get Spitball into a duel but multi's tend to be more of a drag race

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          @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

          sive tacking duels and covering/giving bad air that we are used to from mono's

          I am specifically referring to the point when they had built a decent lead, and let Spitface get better wind strength. If they had been out the same side as him, the win would have been assured. They must be careful with this Aussie, he is a slippery c*nt.

          I didn't say they should get in a tacking duel, although they would win that, too.
          It's sensible, not about mono or multi....

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            Wow great race this morning and we were lucky to win thanks to that late penalty. Artemis is clearly a fast boat in the heavier winds, most likely fastest of the lot.

            We race them again tomorrow so hopefully lighter winds

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              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/93122976/team-new-zealands-penalty-win-explained

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              • JKJ JK

                Wow great race this morning and we were lucky to win thanks to that late penalty. Artemis is clearly a fast boat in the heavier winds, most likely fastest of the lot.

                We race them again tomorrow so hopefully lighter winds

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                @JK said in Americas Cup:

                Wow great race this morning and we were lucky to win thanks to that late penalty. Artemis is clearly a fast boat in the heavier winds, most likely fastest of the lot.

                We race them again tomorrow so hopefully lighter winds

                I wonder what the wind is predicted to be like during the semis and finals...

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                  I hadn't looked at the schedule, but the way these guys were talking about boats and teams developing through the regatta, I thought this America's Cup was going to drag on for several months. I thought we were in some largely meaningless preliminary skirmish, with points bound to ramp up in more telling later rounds.

                  But we're not. The first team will be knocked out on Saturday. That will be the end of Oracle's participation until the actual Cup races and the whole thing will be finished before the end of June.

                  https://www.americascup.com/en/ac35-schedule.html

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                    No racing today due to lack of winds. So all rolls over to tomorrows reserve day

                    Was reading that winds are going to get lighter as they head in to summer there and would expect averages in the 8-12knot range. They also seem to think that Team NZ may have the fastest boat in the lighter winds as appears to foil easier.

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                      I sent this to a swedish friend, haha, Artmeis' next boat...
                      alt text

                      that was just fantastic, smashed 'em bro! really smooth foil sailing and amazing turns.
                      Beat BAR by 2 legs in a shortened race of 6 legs, Ainslie WD, retired in tears.
                      Go Kiwis!

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                        Some big margins this morning, probably exacerbated by the light winds and teams realising that once they are that far back they are unlikely to be able to catch up

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                          Virgil
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                          Soooo.
                          After this mornings races dare we starting believing..again.
                          Smacked the frenchies and comfortably put away the other kiwi with all the baggage.
                          Sailed at 100% foiling, first time it's been done so far.
                          And on top of that fluffybunny face spittall lost again to the swedes.
                          Big race tomorrow, if we can beat cuntface then not only will we too the challenger series, we get to choose our opponent in the semi finals. And if we make it to the big dance we come with 1 point as a head start.

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                            Soooo.
                            After this mornings races dare we starting believing..again.
                            Smacked the frenchies and comfortably put away the other kiwi with all the baggage.
                            Sailed at 100% foiling, first time it's been done so far.
                            And on top of that fluffybunny face spittall lost again to the swedes.
                            Big race tomorrow, if we can beat cuntface then not only will we too the challenger series, we get to choose our opponent in the semi finals. And if we make it to the big dance we come with 1 point as a head start.

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                            @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

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                              @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

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                              @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                              @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                              It's first to seven mate

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                                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                It's first to seven mate

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                                @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                It's first to seven mate

                                so TR's correct....

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                                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                  @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                  It's first to seven mate

                                  so TR's correct....

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                                  @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                  @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                  @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                  It's first to seven mate

                                  so TR's correct....

                                  Deano is not steering now

                                  alt text

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                    @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                    It's first to seven mate

                                    so TR's correct....

                                    Deano is not steering now

                                    alt text

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                                    Virgil
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                                    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                    @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                    @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                    It's first to seven mate

                                    so TR's correct....

                                    Deano is not steering now

                                    alt text

                                    He's Japans problem now.

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                                      Rugger Quizzes
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                                      Was never that interested in yachting but always wondered why team NZ hang on to Barker for so long.

                                      Guys like Coutts and Burling won Olympic medals Barker's involvement with Olympics goes something like this. Is he that good a sailor?

                                      Olympic Games
                                      1996 – Unsuccessfully trialed to represent New Zealand in the Finn for the 1996 Olympic Games.
                                      2000 – Did not participate in the New Zealand selection trials due to America's Cup commitments.
                                      2004 – Represented New Zealand in the Finn finishing 13th out of 25 competitors

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                                      • V Virgil

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                        It's first to seven mate

                                        so TR's correct....

                                        Deano is not steering now

                                        alt text

                                        He's Japans problem now.

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                                        @Virgil said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                        It's first to seven mate

                                        so TR's correct....

                                        Deano is not steering now

                                        alt text

                                        He's Japans problem now.

                                        Yeah when they lost to Oracle.. I was thinking he choked again. After having the lead

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                                        • mimicM mimic

                                          @Virgil said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                                          @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                          @Virgil we need a 9 point start....

                                          It's first to seven mate

                                          so TR's correct....

                                          Deano is not steering now

                                          alt text

                                          He's Japans problem now.

                                          Yeah when they lost to Oracle.. I was thinking he choked again. After having the lead

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                                          Kruse
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                                          @mimic Or ordered to. (yeah, should go in Conspiracy Theories thread)

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