All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Wait, people are questioning Rieko's power? I assume some people have never seen him play?
I'm assuming it's the same people that think SBW is some kind of almighty and super powerful battering ram that skittles players everywhere, while Crotty and ALB are liable to fall over if someone whispers boo.
As compared to people who think Crotty is "Mr Reliable" who never falls off a tackle and always distributes brilliantly?
SBW does have the best off-load in traffic going, combined with a decent amount of physical power. There's no need to suggest that because people like that, they also think he's some God of football.
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I like the look and balance of the team. My only slight eyebrow raise is with Crotty at centre. He doesn't usually play there and neither does SBW. I do however trust his defence on the outside break.
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@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
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Pretty exciting team. Sux that Coles isn't fit.
Surprised but not surprised about the Rieko vs Savea selection. Hopefully Rieko goes well like he did for the Blues. Glad he got in agead of Naholo.
Surprised about the midfield. Didn't think it would be ALB who missed out if SBW was going to start.
I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.
Ine thing that hasn't been mention much is A Smith
claiming the starting 9 spot. I guess the Samoa game signalled it but 2 weeks ago plenty of people were sure it would be TJP. I think they have got it right. -
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.
He doesn't play sports. He is sports.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Poor Scotland.
Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok
With the emphasis on token
Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Poor Scotland.
Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok
With the emphasis on token
Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend
Comedy Gold
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
Some teams struggle with this though.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
And not half as useful.
The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.
So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.
And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Poor Scotland.
Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok
With the emphasis on token
Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend
Comedy Gold
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Poor Scotland.
Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok
With the emphasis on token
Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend
Comedy Gold
Thanks. I'm here most weeks when I haven't been banned.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
And not half as useful.
The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.
So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.
And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.
If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.
And not half as useful.
The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.
So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.
And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.
Easy tiger. It's @Bones you need to have a go at, not me.
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Oh so it's only the best offload in traffic for someone playing in the centres, I missed that qualification. Still heavily debatable...
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Oh so it's only the best offload in traffic for someone playing in the centres, I missed that qualification. Still heavily debatable...
Bro he's far and away the best offloader in the game......
Out of all the other Muslims who have played league, tried to box and who don't like banks.
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Have been flicking through this thread under the fog of alcohol. Are the SBW knockers questioning his big game credentials?
Watch the Blues vs Lions game again and realise that he put in the best midfield performance of the year.
Follow up by examining why "but Steve would pick my player" is no longer valid. Follow with a lament for Rob Thompson.
Finally just chill and realise that the ABs selected the best player in the country, as they usually do.
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Have been flicking through this thread under the fog of alcohol. Are the SBW knockers questioning his big game credentials?
Watch the Blues vs Lions game again and realise that he put in the best midfield performance of the year.
Follow up by examining why "but Steve would pick my player" is no longer valid. Follow with a lament for Rob Thompson.
Finally just chill and realise that the ABs selected the best player in the country, as they usually do.
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Pretty exciting team. Sux that Coles isn't fit.
Surprised but not surprised about the Rieko vs Savea selection. Hopefully Rieko goes well like he did for the Blues. Glad he got in agead of Naholo.
Surprised about the midfield. Didn't think it would be ALB who missed out if SBW was going to start.
I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.
Ine thing that hasn't been mention much is A Smith
claiming the starting 9 spot. I guess the Samoa game signalled it but 2 weeks ago plenty of people were sure it would be TJP. I think they have got it right.@pukunui said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.
My take on the Barrett selection is that there's proabbaly a strong likelihood that our two frontline locks will play 80, Barrett could replace Kaino in the second half and Ardie for Cane.
Romano is very effective at shifting bodies at the ruck which is still needed late in the game.
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This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.
Despite best attempts to argue about selections, this Hansen fella really doesn't give us much.
If only Mark Ranby was selected....
