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All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

    @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

    If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

    Some teams struggle with this though.

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      Pretty exciting team. Sux that Coles isn't fit.

      Surprised but not surprised about the Rieko vs Savea selection. Hopefully Rieko goes well like he did for the Blues. Glad he got in agead of Naholo.

      Surprised about the midfield. Didn't think it would be ALB who missed out if SBW was going to start.

      I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.

      Ine thing that hasn't been mention much is A Smith
      claiming the starting 9 spot. I guess the Samoa game signalled it but 2 weeks ago plenty of people were sure it would be TJP. I think they have got it right.

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

        @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

        If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

        Some teams struggle with this though.

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        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

        @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

        @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

        If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

        Some teams struggle with this though.

        SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

          @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

          @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

          If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

          Some teams struggle with this though.

          SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.

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          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

          @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

          @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

          If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

          Some teams struggle with this though.

          SBW doesn't pass, he offloads.

          He doesn't play sports. He is sports.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            Poor Scotland.

            Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok

            With the emphasis on token

            Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend

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            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            Poor Scotland.

            Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok

            With the emphasis on token

            Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend

            Comedy Gold

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

              @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

              If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

              Some teams struggle with this though.

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              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

              @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

              @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

              If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

              And not half as useful.

              The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.

              So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.

              And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                Poor Scotland.

                Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok

                With the emphasis on token

                Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend

                Comedy Gold

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                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                Poor Scotland.

                Naa its good. Means i can support the ABs 100% and not hope a token Scot goes ok

                With the emphasis on token

                Sigh. Seymours hat trick will have to wait til next weekend

                Comedy Gold

                Thanks. I'm here most weeks when I haven't been banned.

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                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

                  If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

                  And not half as useful.

                  The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.

                  So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.

                  And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.

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                  @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Chester-Draws why do you think SBW has the best offload in traffic? I'd say ALB, with the likes of Coles, Read, TJP and Barrett there or thereabouts.

                  If you offload out of traffic I believe that is called a 'pass'.

                  And not half as useful.

                  The Crusaders passed and passed and it achieved little. Luatua and SBW take it to the line, get the man running on at pace some room by passing behind the defenders (a.k.a. offloading) and the game was won.

                  So I'll stick with offloading being a more useful skill.

                  And if you don't think SBW is better at it than most others, then nothing I say will convince you. It really doesn't matter if Coles (really, Coles???) is better at it, he's not playing in the centres.

                  Easy tiger. It's @Bones you need to have a go at, not me.

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                    Oh so it's only the best offload in traffic for someone playing in the centres, I missed that qualification. Still heavily debatable...

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Oh so it's only the best offload in traffic for someone playing in the centres, I missed that qualification. Still heavily debatable...

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                      Oh so it's only the best offload in traffic for someone playing in the centres, I missed that qualification. Still heavily debatable...

                      Bro he's far and away the best offloader in the game......

                      Out of all the other Muslims who have played league, tried to box and who don't like banks.

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                        Have been flicking through this thread under the fog of alcohol. Are the SBW knockers questioning his big game credentials?

                        Watch the Blues vs Lions game again and realise that he put in the best midfield performance of the year.

                        Follow up by examining why "but Steve would pick my player" is no longer valid. Follow with a lament for Rob Thompson.

                        Finally just chill and realise that the ABs selected the best player in the country, as they usually do.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Have been flicking through this thread under the fog of alcohol. Are the SBW knockers questioning his big game credentials?

                          Watch the Blues vs Lions game again and realise that he put in the best midfield performance of the year.

                          Follow up by examining why "but Steve would pick my player" is no longer valid. Follow with a lament for Rob Thompson.

                          Finally just chill and realise that the ABs selected the best player in the country, as they usually do.

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                          @Tim I don't think anyone's knocking SBW. It seems Chester has a huge problem with Crotty being selected though.

                          He keeps referring to the Lions/Crusaders game for some reason. I don't know why given Crotty wasn't even playing.

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                            I certainly haven't knocked Williams. I don't really think you need to knock players to promote another's abilities...

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                            • pukunuiP pukunui

                              Pretty exciting team. Sux that Coles isn't fit.

                              Surprised but not surprised about the Rieko vs Savea selection. Hopefully Rieko goes well like he did for the Blues. Glad he got in agead of Naholo.

                              Surprised about the midfield. Didn't think it would be ALB who missed out if SBW was going to start.

                              I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.

                              Ine thing that hasn't been mention much is A Smith
                              claiming the starting 9 spot. I guess the Samoa game signalled it but 2 weeks ago plenty of people were sure it would be TJP. I think they have got it right.

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                              @pukunui said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                              I think Scott Barrett on the bench ahead of Romano will add to the "ball playing" ability of the reserves. Romano isn't bad but his one trick seems to be a midfield hit up. Not that effective against this Lions team.

                              My take on the Barrett selection is that there's proabbaly a strong likelihood that our two frontline locks will play 80, Barrett could replace Kaino in the second half and Ardie for Cane.

                              Romano is very effective at shifting bodies at the ruck which is still needed late in the game.

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                                Oh and.... surprised at the Thompson omission - is he injured?

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                                  This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                    This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.

                                    Despite best attempts to argue about selections, this Hansen fella really doesn't give us much.

                                    If only Mark Ranby was selected....

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                      This thread has got weird - this is what happens when Hansen goes all quiet before a big test - send in the clowns.

                                      Despite best attempts to argue about selections, this Hansen fella really doesn't give us much.

                                      If only Mark Ranby was selected....

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                                      @ACT-Crusader Christ for second there I thought you were going to say Mark Reason

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @Salacious-Crumb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                        @Chris-B. said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                        @dogmeat As they used to shout on the Basil Brush Show...."Who's that?"

                                        Love that guy.

                                        alt text

                                        Boom-boom!

                                        Maybe this is one for the Palmerston North thread ( @PN ) but I saw Basil Brush at the Regent Theatre when he toured NZ 🙂

                                        But I digress ...

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                        Maybe this is one for the Palmerston North thread ( @PN ) but I saw Basil Brush at the Regent Theatre when he toured NZ 🙂

                                        Basil was a Saturday tradition for me growing up. Club rugby in the mornings; rep rugby in the afternoon; then home to eat din-dins watching Baz early evening. I fuckin' love that guy.

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                                          I don't get the Naholo angst. Until he strings 3 games together where he doesn't make at least 1 major blunder he is not yet the man. If NZ lose the first test he'll be right back into the equation though.

                                          As for Romano/Barrett. Barrett is just a better rugby player.

                                          I'm undecided about Crotty vs ALB. Saturday should help me decide.

                                          The AB back three should be much better under the high ball than some of the efforts we have seen recently (Bridge, Lowe etc)

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