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All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1

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  • TimT Tim

    https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/lions-tour/new-zealand-v-lions/winner

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    @Tim Cant see TAB on there....
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      Hansen from the 9.00 mark. Talks about the midfield and wing selections.

      http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017.06.22-12.30.00-S.mp3

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        I like starting with SBW and Crotty - although I do think Crotty is a better 2nd 5 than centre. With the rush defense and ball runners the Lions will go with off ruck and set piece having SBW to blunt them is a good call.

        They know SBW will attack the ball when making tackles, which will hopefully commit more Lions to rucks, and mean more opportunities for turnovers and breaks. It's a bonus that he's returned with more gas than before he was injured too.

        This all sets us up nicely to see ALB coming on and gives us options about which of Crotty/SBW stays on.

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          Wait, people are questioning Rieko's power? I assume some people have never seen him play?

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            Really wish Dane Coles had been fit...

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            • F Frye

              Not a bad captaincy prediction here:

              @Frye said in B&I Lions 2017:

              11 Apr 2017, 16:29
              What about Peter O'Mahony?
              Likely starter (imo), captaincy experience, proper hard bastard, etc

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              @Frye said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

              Not a bad captaincy prediction here:

              @Frye said in B&I Lions 2017:

              11 Apr 2017, 16:29
              What about Peter O'Mahony?
              Likely starter (imo), captaincy experience, proper hard bastard, etc

              The arrogance of some NZ fans, even predicting Lions stuff and then quoting themselves 😀

              In all seriousness though, it's a great selection by Gatland. O'Mahony and O'Brien have been the pick of the forwards on this tour so far IMO.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                Wait, people are questioning Rieko's power? I assume some people have never seen him play?

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                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                Wait, people are questioning Rieko's power? I assume some people have never seen him play?

                I'm assuming it's the same people that think SBW is some kind of almighty and super powerful battering ram that skittles players everywhere, while Crotty and ALB are liable to fall over if someone whispers boo.

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  I think if alb comes on for sbw , crotty moves into 12 , alb to 13 .

                  I reckon they like to change the shape a bit when the subs come on , bit like beuady to FB, bsmith to wing , moves the point of the threats .

                  It keeps the opposition guessing , the advantage of having utilities

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                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  I think if alb comes on for sbw , crotty moves into 12 , alb to 13 .

                  I reckon they like to change the shape a bit when the subs come on , bit like beuady to FB, bsmith to wing , moves the point of the threats .

                  It keeps the opposition guessing , the advantage of having utilities

                  I reckon we might see Crotty lining up at 12 and SBW at 13 at least some of the time.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...

                    Midfield a suprise, but looks strong, and ALB will be dynamite off the bench. Left wing is the most surprising selection in years i reckon. Savea has had worse form rewarded, and Reiko didn't do himself many favours on the weekend.

                    Good team, ABs by about 15.

                    For the Lions, I am pleased for O'Mahony, i really like him as a player, and to be the Lions test captain is just reward for him being an old-fashioned hard bastard. Bloody good team really, and we are going to have to work hard to break them down. Itoje, Webb and Sinckler will be good late in the game for them as well.

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                    shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...

                    It's ~1991 - Auckland's Bernie McCahill at second five.... 🙂

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                      shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...

                      It's ~1991 - Auckland's Bernie McCahill at second five.... 🙂

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                      @Chris-B. said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                      shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...

                      It's ~1991 - Auckland's Bernie McCahill at second five.... 🙂

                      Over a superior player from up north (of the bridge) - just to belabor your point

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                      • rotatedR rotated

                        The real story is ALB out for Crotty - ALB has made every post a winner and his combination with SBW was impressive.

                        Savea dropping perhaps a year too late - good to see they finally made the call, the only surprise is that it wasn't Naholo getting the nod.

                        The bracketing of Cruden and Sopoaga is curious. The press release doesn't mention that it is predicated on Cruden's recovery. If Cruden is iffy now, is he that much better than Lima that he is worth rolling the dice on?

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                        @rotated I don't understand Naholo missing out. Rieko is still green. Both have x factor. I guess Rieko can cover center whereas Naholo is a specialist wing. Guess he should start learning to play center. It is a shame his talent is left out. Game breaker despite the constant moaning about him under the high ball.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Rembrandt 1.89m, 102 kg according to the All Blacks' website. cf. Naholo at 1.86m, 96kg.

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                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                          @Rembrandt 1.89m, 102 kg according to the All Blacks' website. cf. Naholo at 1.86m, 96kg.

                          Please clarify:

                          • including height of hair?
                          • doing handstand?
                          • next to brother?
                          • as seen in the street by random internet guy?
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                          • broughieB broughie

                            @rotated I don't understand Naholo missing out. Rieko is still green. Both have x factor. I guess Rieko can cover center whereas Naholo is a specialist wing. Guess he should start learning to play center. It is a shame his talent is left out. Game breaker despite the constant moaning about him under the high ball.

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                            @broughie Naholo has definitely covered centre for the ABs in the past, but with a centre on the bench i think it's probably irrelevant.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Time for the old head to head.

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                              Time for the old head to head.

                              0_1498092399278_9df60f0e-91da-4c0f-afef-574087161e5d-image.png

                              9 to Lions on current form(?). Both playing ti potential it goes ABs.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                Wait, people are questioning Rieko's power? I assume some people have never seen him play?

                                I'm assuming it's the same people that think SBW is some kind of almighty and super powerful battering ram that skittles players everywhere, while Crotty and ALB are liable to fall over if someone whispers boo.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                Wait, people are questioning Rieko's power? I assume some people have never seen him play?

                                I'm assuming it's the same people that think SBW is some kind of almighty and super powerful battering ram that skittles players everywhere, while Crotty and ALB are liable to fall over if someone whispers boo.

                                As compared to people who think Crotty is "Mr Reliable" who never falls off a tackle and always distributes brilliantly?

                                SBW does have the best off-load in traffic going, combined with a decent amount of physical power. There's no need to suggest that because people like that, they also think he's some God of football.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @broughie Naholo has definitely covered centre for the ABs in the past, but with a centre on the bench i think it's probably irrelevant.

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                                  @Bones Right. I overlooked the obvious.

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                                    A God of Football?

                                    SBW is no mere minor deity like that.

                                    He is THE God of Sport. It's this sort of unbelief that caused him to ignore the prayers for an Olympic Gold Medal and go into invisible mode.

                                    How many miracles must he perform before everyone believes? Was not the miracle of the disappearing boxing rounds enough?

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                                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                      @Chris-B. said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                      shit is it 2002 again? an ordinary Cantab picked over a superior player from up north. jesus...

                                      It's ~1991 - Auckland's Bernie McCahill at second five.... 🙂

                                      Over a superior player from up north (of the bridge) - just to belabor your point

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                                      @dogmeat As they used to shout on the Basil Brush Show...."Who's that?"

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        @rotated I don't understand Naholo missing out. Rieko is still green. Both have x factor. I guess Rieko can cover center whereas Naholo is a specialist wing. Guess he should start learning to play center. It is a shame his talent is left out. Game breaker despite the constant moaning about him under the high ball.

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                                        @broughie said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                        @rotated I don't understand Naholo missing out. Rieko is still green. Both have x factor. I guess Rieko can cover center whereas Naholo is a specialist wing. Guess he should start learning to play center. It is a shame his talent is left out. Game breaker despite the constant moaning about him under the high ball.

                                        I don't think it's something to get heated up about, last Lions tour the ABs used 4 different wings so there's a good chance that Naholo will get a run.

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @rotated I don't understand Naholo missing out. Rieko is still green. Both have x factor. I guess Rieko can cover center whereas Naholo is a specialist wing. Guess he should start learning to play center. It is a shame his talent is left out. Game breaker despite the constant moaning about him under the high ball.

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                                          @broughie im guessing the sides they usually play has something to do with it Reiko left, Naholo right

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