All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
@MN5 go back in this thread, there is a link to an article where BB says he (Ioane) had beaten him in the sprint testing earlier that day.
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JUst watched the highlights package, and the tackle Read missed on Williams, TBF to Read, if an international FB couldnt beat an 8 as he did there, he had no place being there, similarly cant apportion too much to Cruden either as he just got gassed by him.
Only thing that may have changed the outcome of that coulda been if Read hadnt of been charging so hard chasing , but I think it comes down more to a moment of brilliance from Williams than blaming Read or Cruden.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
JUst watched the highlights package, and the tackle Read missed on Williams, TBF to Read, if an international FB couldnt beat an 8 as he did there, he had no place being there, similarly cant apportion too much to Cruden either as he just got gassed by him.
Only thing that may have changed the outcome of that coulda been if Read hadnt of been charging so hard chasing , but I think it comes down more to a moment of brilliance from Williams than blaming Read or Cruden.
Isn't the issue that there wasn't a line of black? Good backs should be able to beat two separate players most times. A couple of times our kick chase was disjointed.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
JUst watched the highlights package, and the tackle Read missed on Williams, TBF to Read, if an international FB couldnt beat an 8 as he did there, he had no place being there, similarly cant apportion too much to Cruden either as he just got gassed by him.
Only thing that may have changed the outcome of that coulda been if Read hadnt of been charging so hard chasing , but I think it comes down more to a moment of brilliance from Williams than blaming Read or Cruden.
Isn't the issue that there wasn't a line of black? Good backs should be able to beat two separate players most times. A couple of times our kick chase was disjointed.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
mes our kick chase was disjointed.
I was just responding to above criticism with some saying that was Reads fault, some said Crudens.
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@MN5 go back in this thread, there is a link to an article where BB says he (Ioane) had beaten him in the sprint testing earlier that day.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 go back in this thread, there is a link to an article where BB says he (Ioane) had beaten him in the sprint testing earlier that day.
Surely BB was being modest like any good farm boy from the naki
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CNN can't even get rugby right.
New Zealand's All Blacks overpower Lions 30-15 in curtain-raiser
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/24/sport/new-zealand-british-and-irish-lions-rugby-eden-park-auckland/index.html@Frank said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
CNN can't even get rugby right.
New Zealand's All Blacks overpower Lions 30-15 in curtain-raiser
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/24/sport/new-zealand-british-and-irish-lions-rugby-eden-park-auckland/index.htmlWhat about Nisbo when introducing the team. "O'Brian will be captaining the Irish tonight"
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
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@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
mes our kick chase was disjointed.
I was just responding to above criticism with some saying that was Reads fault, some said Crudens.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
mes our kick chase was disjointed.
I was just responding to above criticism with some saying that was Reads fault, some said Crudens.
Yeah, they were probably a player short in the kick chase, filling the gap between Cruden and SBW. Read was coming too fast, Cruden didn't have the gas and had to push too far over and SBW was too wide. And also, wonky legs did bloody well, lets not forget that.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
Muscle v fat maybe
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
Muscle v fat maybe
(Ducks for cover).@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
Muscle v fat maybe
(Ducks for cover).It's not Saveas fault he lives so close to Kilbirnie KFC
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reckon they need to call Jane into trainings this week to give our backs some lessons in defusing bombs!
OUr best back last night under the highball was BB!
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Haven't read the thread yet.
Williams had some good moments and credit to his defence, but hold onto the fucken ball you numbnuts. Put severe pressure on the ABs with turnovers at times.
Cruden was pretty lacklustre.
A Smith was there for his passing - really disappointing to see him completely wreck a couple of crucial opportunities with super shit passing.
ALB looked quite lost at times.
Locks and loosies were brilliant.
Taylor needs to sort his throwing, those were 2 big lineouts before he got yanked.
Peyper with some odd calls around the tackle. What the fuck was that when McGrath is crawling along the ground after being tackled twice and then the ABs get penalised? Otherwise well reffed.
I wonder if the NH media will stop with the rubbish around scrum dominance now?
Overall, thought the ABs played pretty ordinary, which is comforting - we can improve a lot.
Fuck. No wonder we lost ... oh hang on ...
BTW your glass is the half empty one over there ...
@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Haven't read the thread yet.
Williams had some good moments and credit to his defence, but hold onto the fucken ball you numbnuts. Put severe pressure on the ABs with turnovers at times.
Cruden was pretty lacklustre.
A Smith was there for his passing - really disappointing to see him completely wreck a couple of crucial opportunities with super shit passing.
ALB looked quite lost at times.
Locks and loosies were brilliant.
Taylor needs to sort his throwing, those were 2 big lineouts before he got yanked.
Peyper with some odd calls around the tackle. What the fuck was that when McGrath is crawling along the ground after being tackled twice and then the ABs get penalised? Otherwise well reffed.
I wonder if the NH media will stop with the rubbish around scrum dominance now?
Overall, thought the ABs played pretty ordinary, which is comforting - we can improve a lot.
Fuck. No wonder we lost ... oh hang on ...
BTW your glass is the half empty one over there ...
Did you see my score prediction and post prior to the game?
I maintain the ABs have a LOT more improvement in them and that yesterday were pretty average for large parts. Did you see the size of some of the gaps the lions went skipping through?
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
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@MN5 when Beaudie got a run away try for Canes vs the Blues - Rieko was gaining on him on the chase when they were both going flat out.
@KiwiMurph slightly easier to run without a ball than with, and I expect BB probably thought, hey, no fucker can catch me now so I'll ease back a bit....
But proper testing, when BB reckosn he is quicker, cant complain about that!
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
Well colour your surprised then. The boy is quick.
I have no problems with his physicality. If you watched rugby then you will have seen him power through 4 Lions players to the try line in the Blues v Lions match.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
Well colour your surprised then. The boy is quick.
I have no problems with his physicality. If you watched rugby then you will have seen him power through 4 Lions players to the try line in the Blues v Lions match.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
apparently , once they assembled into AB training , coaches were a bit blown away with reikos pace first hand in drills etc, '
Easily the quickest in the squad now they say , quicker than BB
That's probably what got him the start against Jules. In a tight test with limited space that extra yard of pace can make all the difference, and so it proved. Our coaches are fucking rugby geniuses.
He doesn't look like he has the build to trample guys like the Bus.
If he is actually quicker than BB I'd be pretty shocked.
Two things.
- Why would you be shocked he was quicker than BB? Did you not see pull away for his second try last night.
- Have you not actually seen him? He's big. He's probably nearly Savea's size (less chubby in the cheeks though). He's physical.
He looks pretty slim to me compared to Savea. I saw all he did too. We all know how freakishly quick BB is, I'd just find it really surprising if Ioane was even quicker that's all.
Well colour your surprised then. The boy is quick.
I have no problems with his physicality. If you watched rugby then you will have seen him power through 4 Lions players to the try line in the Blues v Lions match.
That would mean I'd have to get sky again and from @Virgil s rant earlier on that sounds like I'd be assailed with ads and end up buying a Hyundai. Seems like too much hassle.
