All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2
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Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
I don't think Barrett played that badly, but his goal kicking cost us. The ref was terrible, but got it right when he sent off SBW. Vunipola should have got red as well and that could have had a huge impact on the game. The swinging arm on Naholo should have been checked properly. There were more dubious decisions and non-decisions.
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@KiwiJoker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
As Murray Mexted would say, the karma was not with us tonight
I think you mean psychic energy
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Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
I'll agree on his kicking, but he wasn't that bad overall, particularly when considering the circumstances.
Same applies to Cruden, but that final kick was utterly fucking stupid. They had half decent field position, ball retention was good and the Lions were bound to infringe.
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Ok. Fuck.
Ref was as random as fuck.
However i can see the rationale for the rc. I disagree with it. He did wrap his left arm. But hey ho you do that you put yourself in the ref's hands.
Couple of high / late shots by both teams on balance the Lions got the rub of that green.
Ref had as much idea about the offside line as Itoje did.
Couple of nice tries by BILs. Very very good.
That last penalty was absolute crap. You can't jump into a pass and be considered "in the air". What about if someone is running and hit at the moment both feet are off the ground? That was crap.
BBs kicking boots ... it was worried about ....
Great D by BILs. Big big tackles.
So to beat the All Blacks you have:
- Pray for rain
- Play against 14
- Get some bullshit calls in your favour
- Score a couple of sensational tries
- Defend well
Always thought this would be a war and could go either way and full credit (
) (despite my balanced and reasonable analysis above) to the Lions for coming out on top.@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Ok. Fuck.
Ref was as random as fuck.
However i can see the rationale for the rc. I disagree with it. He did wrap his left arm. But hey ho you do that you put yourself in the ref's hands.
Couple of high / late shots by both teams on balance the Lions got the rub of that green.
Ref had as much idea about the offside line as Itoje did.
Couple of nice tries by BILs. Very very good.
That last penalty was absolute crap. You can't jump into a pass and be considered "in the air". What about if someone is running and hit at the moment both feet are off the ground? That was crap.
BBs kicking boots ... it was worried about ....
Great D by BILs. Big big tackles.
So to beat the All Blacks you have:
- Pray for rain
- Play against 14
- Get some bullshit calls in your favour
- Score a couple of sensational tries
- Defend well
Always thought this would be a war and could go either way and full credit (
) (despite my balanced and reasonable analysis above) to the Lions for coming out on top.You sound like an Aussie.....
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
I don't think Barrett played that badly, but his goal kicking cost us. The ref was terrible, but got it right when he sent off SBW. Vunipola should have got red as well and that could have had a huge impact on the game. The swinging arm on Naholo should have been checked properly. There were more dubious decisions and non-decisions.
@Stargazer interesting that the Ref wasn't listening couldn't understand George...they certainly didn't work together
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Melodie trying to excuse B Barrett's goal kicking...
She's a shocker and so is Ian Smith.
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Either late tactical awareness of how to adjust? Or the impact of their bench (which was better than last wek's). Lions blew us away in the last 20. There was a period of prologued aggressive defence around the 70 min mark (or thereabouts) that was awesome.
Well done Lions, got there in the end.
Glad for Gats. His players almost let him down with their indiscipline.
I thought Garces was fine. There's always quibbles.
@Rapido The 35 minutes of being a man down told in the last 10 minutes. Tiredness, the disruption from the subs coming on and the game opening up a little meant more mistakes and in the end they cost the AB's.
The Lions were very nervous for most of that second half - the AB's looked like they could control the game and score penalties until Vunipola was sent off and the Lions pulled themselves together.
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Melodie trying to excuse B Barrett's goal kicking...
She's a shocker and so is Ian Smith.
at least Parsons didn't back down
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@KiwiJoker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
As Murray Mexted would say, the karma was not with us tonight
I think you mean psychic energy
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@KiwiJoker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
As Murray Mexted would say, the karma was not with us tonight
I think you mean psychic energy
Yeah , was just thinking I don't remember karma talk
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Fucking french fluffybunny. Perfect example of how to ruin a game of rugby. Im not talking about the SBW red. That is world rugby's fault. They need to sort something out that covers tackles like that but doesn't wreck a game. Reds should be for punches, eye gouges, biting and grabbing ball sacks.
How the fuck did the lions not get a yellow for repeated penalties? How the fuck was the Lions shoulder to BBs face not a red and only yellow? How was the Naholo swinging arm not even picked up? And worst of all what the fuck was the match deciding penalty? That is hands down the worse call ive ever seen. Worse than anything Wayne Barnes ever did.
SBW fuck you. That is the second massive game for the ABs where you have been carded for the shoulder charge. I would imagine he will get a ban too.
BBs kicking was shit. It has finally cost us a game. That last chip kick was as bad as Crudens cross kick moments earlier.
Thought taking Kaino off was a mistake. Naholo or Ioane should have been pulled off. One of the Back row could have defended in the backs on Lions scrums.
Most worrying. What has happened to the ABs defence and attack? The two lions tries were soft as hell and we don't even seem willing to give the ball to the backs, even off set piece and counter attack is non existant. Not the best night for it but it was the same last week.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
I don't think Barrett played that badly, but his goal kicking cost us. The ref was terrible, but got it right when he sent off SBW. Vunipola should have got red as well and that could have had a huge impact on the game. The swinging arm on Naholo should have been checked properly. There were more dubious decisions and non-decisions.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Jesus golden boy Barrett gets a free ride on here. He was so poor tonight, and kicked away good attacking ball on numerous occassions, none of which came close to working out. Still our best option, and agree Cruden was no better, but you can criticise him you know.
Lions much better than us in contact all night, losing kaino hurt.
I'm bitterly disappointed because I feel that we still should have won that.
I have zero problems with the ref
I don't think Barrett played that badly, but his goal kicking cost us. The ref was terrible, but got it right when he sent off SBW. Vunipola should have got red as well and that could have had a huge impact on the game. The swinging arm on Naholo should have been checked properly. There were more dubious decisions and non-decisions.
Barret was ok. Missed three kicks (with one hitting the post) but nailed 7 for a 70% success rate
Dagg was poorish. As was Cruden. I would prefer Sopoaga on the bench.
SBW was clearly a red card. But agree Vunipola should have got red as well but need to watch again to try and see why it wasn't. but the ref seemed to be keen as hell to give the first red. But not even consider the 2nd one.
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Fucking french fluffybunny. Perfect example of how to ruin a game of rugby. Im not talking about the SBW red. That is world rugby's fault. They need to sort something out that covers tackles like that but doesn't wreck a game. Reds should be for punches, eye gouges, biting and grabbing ball sacks.
How the fuck did the lions not get a yellow for repeated penalties? How the fuck was the Lions shoulder to BBs face not a red and only yellow? How was the Naholo swinging arm not even picked up? And worst of all what the fuck was the match deciding penalty? That is hands down the worse call ive ever seen. Worse than anything Wayne Barnes ever did.
SBW fuck you. That is the second massive game for the ABs where you have been carded for the shoulder charge. I would imagine he will get a ban too.
BBs kicking was shit. It has finally cost us a game. That last chip kick was as bad as Crudens cross kick moments earlier.
Thought taking Kaino off was a mistake. Naholo or Ioane should have been pulled off. One of the Back row could have defended in the backs on Lions scrums.
Most worrying. What has happened to the ABs defence and attack? The two lions tries were soft as hell and we don't even seem willing to give the ball to the backs, even off set piece and counter attack is non existant. Not the best night for it but it was the same last week.
@pukunui said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Most worrying. What has happened to the ABs defence and attack? The two lions tries were soft as hell and we don't even seem willing to give the ball to the backs, even off set piece and counter attack is non existant. Not the best night for it but it was the same last week.
What happened was having to play with 14 men for most of the game and players getting tired. I wouldn't be too hard on the ABs for those two tries. They were also brilliant tries by the way; the Lions deserve some credit for that!
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We were smart tactically last week, but played narrow again this week with no variation and a lack of second man plays, or just kicked the ball away. No width for the whole game, they could have done more even with 14. Certainly some disruption but you expect more...
