All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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I'm guessing we will take this as a loss and they almost take it as a win ,
That's the part that sucks the most , it's more of a loss to us than them
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So the old adage of " there's no point whinging, the ref isn't going to change his mind" no longer holds true?
I'm fucking seething. That was unprecedented, and not only that, wrong. To use a replay to change your mind on a penalty is bad enough, but to compound it by getting the decision wrong is unfathomable.
@mariner4life yeah it is frustrating alright, try to teach kids the ref is right even when wrong, add in the number of BI players that were at the ref quite alot of the game too, WR needs to stamp that shit out, this aint soccER
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@MiketheSnow said in [All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3]
Like the fight game, don't leave it in the judges hands.
While a glib comment like that may sound witty there are numerous fights where boxers have been hit after the bell or nut shots have gone unpunished and heavily altered the fight.
So yes, don't leave it in the judges hands but if a referee allows a flurry of punches after the 7th round bell sounds which alters the fight - the response shouldn't be "you had 7 rounds to finish him, shut up and take it".
@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in [All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3]
Like the fight game, don't leave it in the judges hands.
While a glib comment like that may sound witty there are numerous fights where boxers have been hit after the bell or nut shots have gone unpunished and heavily altered the fight.
So yes, don't leave it in the judges hands but if a referee allows a flurry of punches after the 7th round bell sounds which alters the fight - the response shouldn't be "you had 7 rounds to finish him, shut up and take it".
Not glib.
You're clutching.
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@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in [All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3]
Like the fight game, don't leave it in the judges hands.
While a glib comment like that may sound witty there are numerous fights where boxers have been hit after the bell or nut shots have gone unpunished and heavily altered the fight.
So yes, don't leave it in the judges hands but if a referee allows a flurry of punches after the 7th round bell sounds which alters the fight - the response shouldn't be "you had 7 rounds to finish him, shut up and take it".
Not glib.
You're clutching.
@MiketheSnow much like Savea, he's been clutching all night
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I'm guessing we will take this as a loss and they almost take it as a win ,
That's the part that sucks the most , it's more of a loss to us than them
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I'm guessing we will take this as a loss and they almost take it as a win ,
That's the part that sucks the most , it's more of a loss to us than them
Yep - Read referred to it as a loss in his post-game interview.
Fitzy just gave a Lion "congratulations". -
@MiketheSnow much like Savea, he's been clutching all night
@SimonAdd_2 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow much like Savea, he's been clutching all night
Too soon mate
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Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
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I don't see what was wrong with the selection. Smith may have been cleared off concussion, but had 3 head knocks already and still has a long time to go this season. Crotty also not back from injury, yet. Coles same same. SBW suspended.
Ioane didn't give any reason last week that he would have done better than Julian Savea. Savea had a great first half. Fekitoa didn't show anything that warranted a start tonight.
There's only one big question for me: why did they persist with BB kicking for goal?
Apart from that, it seemed to me that the ABs, esp. the young ones, were a bit nervous, over-excited etc, which led to too many handling errors.
And that decision from Poite, if he had awarded a penalty, we might have won. Or not. We don't know whether BB would have slotted that penalty, but at least, we would have had a chance.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Ioane didn't give any reason last week that he would have done better than Julian Savea. Savea had a great first half.
Apart from that, it seemed to me that the ABs, esp. the young ones, were a bit nervous, over-excited etc, which led to too many handling errors.
I dunno.. Ioane would've caught the ball when Jules bombed a try opportunity.. Jules looked good cos they actually passed him the ball..
I couldn't keep up with all the knock ons.. But it was the experienced guys that I noticed make errors..
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
Chunder-Mile ?
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Gatland a good not great coach. Fostered a great atmosphere. Should have lost the series 3-0. ABs choked
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
Mike Ashley to referee
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I'm unhappy with that decision however it should never have come to that. We can only blame ourselves. Credit to the Lions for their D and good goal kickers.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I'm unhappy with that decision however it should never have come to that. We can only blame ourselves. Credit to the Lions for their D and good goal kickers.
See this is the sort of arrogance I can't stand. Expecting the All Blacks to be up and have "put the game away". They're not robots. They make errors. They stuff up. All Blacks have been doing that since Adam wore the silverfern.
It's disappointing that something so clear cut was not ruled as it should've been even after being reminded of it by the All Black captain.
But sometimes it does come down to that last few moments because the way the game has gone brings it to that type of scenario.
Disappointing but it's only a game. Both sides deserve credit for doing things that created pressure for the other. Both forward packs were superb. The backs for both were very up and down.
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Justin
Stop it
I've spent countless words defending your right as a great (yes "great") AB halfback.
You've earned the right to just about any indiscretion due to the 96 Springbok series alone. You smashed your body up to my great pleasure for nigh on a decade, and I can't appreciate that enough.
But, despite what the sky social media "executives" tell you...
STOP talking to us like we're dumb, blind sensitive fuckwits who can't recognise a spade when we see one.
Show some class and less apologies and ridiculous justin-fications
Great player in black though
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
Mike Ashley to referee
@Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Read and Warburton should have an arm wrestle to settle it.
Boat race
Mike Ashley to referee
If that's the article I read the other day - jeez, the guy sounds a cock, doesn't he? In court - his testimony/defence consisting of "I drink lots, you know, get it down ya, love it geezer"
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Ioane didn't give any reason last week that he would have done better than Julian Savea. Savea had a great first half.
Apart from that, it seemed to me that the ABs, esp. the young ones, were a bit nervous, over-excited etc, which led to too many handling errors.
I dunno.. Ioane would've caught the ball when Jules bombed a try opportunity.. Jules looked good cos they actually passed him the ball..
I couldn't keep up with all the knock ons.. But it was the experienced guys that I noticed make errors..
A bit harsh on the young guys.. -
Well, that's fucking disappointing.
My welsh friend happily emails me to tell me 'good result'. If it went the other way, there would literally be cops called to his apartment (edited).
The Lions are a good team, and became much much better during the tour. Having said that, they only scored in threes, and barely looking like scoring in the second half. They defended well though, and if you keep the ABs under 20, it becomes 50/50 for us. The key to beating (or fucking drawing) with us is just stoping us scoring points. Farrell was super clutch - it's great to see a guy who can do that, in that situation. Good on him.
Basically, we lost that game (OK, fine, it's a fucking draw, whatever). It's about execution for the ABs, due to the game plan we play. We've had a steady lowering of quality of execution in the past 18 months. That's probably natural because we just don't have the same quality of players as we used to, and injuries are really hurting us. We miss Coles - a lot. I don't think Taylor is the answer yet, but neither is Harris to be fair.
We've got a problem with our goal kicking, and the play of our 10 in running the game. It's a serious fucking problem, because Barrett is the best 10 we have in Super rugby, but he really struggled in this series. Like, fuck me gently, some people were looking for a Carter 2005 from him. How fucking far away from that level of play has he been? IMO, we would have easily won that game tonight with Carter - in current form - playing and taking the kicks. That's fucking worrying.
@Tim is right. Savea should be finished. He looks good in short bursts, then can't catch the fucking ball or fucks up the one chance he gets a game. The problem is that is his role - and he doesn't create anything any more.
I think this series really rams home to us that our golden era is over. We've been far too fucking lucky for far too fucking long.But, not this team.
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Hmmm
Haven't read the thread.
I'm not going to get all pissy about that last decision.
It was a tough one. With my admitted bias I felt he played at it then realised he shouldn't have. If he'd left his arms down no argument but he tried to catch the ball.
My problem with that was the obvious lack of advantage!
FFS ALB was under the bar. Fuck me.
