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Lions v Hurricanes (SF)

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  • W Wreck Diver

    @Bones Stats don't mean shit. You say the Canes wont win back to back because Proctor is injured, bullshit. You even have said you don't trust J Barrett because defence. Well sorry Aso on current form makes the team in my book and is joint top try scorer in the comp as you say playing an average game at centre
    Oh and I nearly forgot Proctors got a fuckin top knock and that just rules him out

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    @Wreck-Diver by the way you may want to re-read my post when the mania has passed. That word "may"....

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      Proctor was killing it at 13 before he got injured. Definitely first choice 13 (although Jordie seems to be some kind of arsey lucky charm there). He wasn't the best player in the team though. That's taking it too far.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Darren-Nicholson I think his defence alone would walk him in, that's not even taking into account how good he is at distribution/using space.

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        @Bones said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

        @Darren-Nicholson I think his defence alone would walk him in, that's not even taking into account how good he is at distribution/using space.

        Proctor was great for us. Aso did very well in his place but I always felt he looked like a winger playing midfield

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          #56

          Sorry @Wreck-Diver as I have to agree with @Bones and @Rancid-Schnitzel

          If available, I would have Proctor at 13 and move Aso back to the wing with Ardie Julian (edit thanks @booboo ) on the other. Aso's defense at Centre is a bit sus as he tends to shoot up and miss tackles.

          Aso has done well in Proctor's absence but I'd have Proctor back at Centre in a heart beat.

          Plus, whilst stats don't always tell the full picture, they certainly help to give context and those stats that @Bones linked to give excellent context.

          Anyway, all a moot point as Proctor isn't available and I would go with the backline as suggested earlier in the thread:

          11 Julian Savea
          12 Laumape
          12 Aso
          14 Milner-Skudder
          15 Jordie Barrett

          Still a very settled and potent backline and one that has all the potential to help the 'Canes go back to back!

          My $0.02 worth

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            Match: Lions v Hurricanes @ Emirates Airlines Park, Johannesburg
            Date: Saturday 29 July 2017
            Kick-Off: 14:30 local
            Referee: Jaco Peyper
            AR1: Marius van der Westhuizen
            AR2: Rasta Rasivhenge
            TMO: Marius Jonker

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              Wow, that's an "interesting" reffing team. Not sold on non neutral refs for semis, especially when you get thrown that team...

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                Wow, that's an "interesting" reffing team. Not sold on non neutral refs for semis, especially when you get thrown that team...

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                @Bones said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

                Wow, that's an "interesting" reffing team. Not sold on non neutral refs for semis, especially when you get thrown that team...

                Really unfair I reckon,

                Should have switched the reffing teams around for the Semi's... Crusaders get Glen Jackson (60 games for the Chiefs)

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                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                  Proctor was killing it at 13 before he got injured. Definitely first choice 13 (although Jordie seems to be some kind of arsey lucky charm there). He wasn't the best player in the team though. That's taking it too far.

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                  @Rancid-Schnitzel I'll settle for best equal.

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                    Could of sent Gus to Jo'burg. Too easy for SANZAAR.

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                      #62

                      That (the reffing team) makes it doubly hard for the Canes. They'll just need to get in and roll their sleeves up. Ts gonna be a tough night. but not impossible

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                        I should say, I don't think Peyper is bad, but I fear he may be easily influenced by the often poor Rasta...

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                        • SammyCS SammyC

                          @Bones said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

                          Wow, that's an "interesting" reffing team. Not sold on non neutral refs for semis, especially when you get thrown that team...

                          Really unfair I reckon,

                          Should have switched the reffing teams around for the Semi's... Crusaders get Glen Jackson (60 games for the Chiefs)

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                          @SammyC said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

                          @Bones said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

                          Wow, that's an "interesting" reffing team. Not sold on non neutral refs for semis, especially when you get thrown that team...

                          Really unfair I reckon,

                          Should have switched the reffing teams around for the Semi's... Crusaders get Glen Jackson (60 games for the Chiefs)

                          you mean "hometown" Glen Jackson. Who is at home? Nice try sammy

                          Absolutely no pressure on the Chiefs now, travel, away game, and now disadvantaged by the ref. Getting within 10 would be a moral victory.

                          oh yea, something something 'canes

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                          • C Crash

                            That (the reffing team) makes it doubly hard for the Canes. They'll just need to get in and roll their sleeves up. Ts gonna be a tough night. but not impossible

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                            @Crash The Chiefs had Peyper and Rasta last week.

                            Canes supporters should be happy that van der Westhuizen isn't the ref. Sharks fans weren't happy with his offficiating last weekend.

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                              haha yeah some texts they read on RS today...

                              Bloody former Chiefs player Glen Jackson always favours them
                              Bloody Glen Jackson tries so hard to appear unbias he is always harder on the Chiefs

                              Not quotes, but you get the gist...

                              Gardner is one of the best, if not the best in the comp right, so he gets a semi-final off, assuming that means he gets the final, but surely he should have had a semi too, as above, coulda sent him to SA as the odds are thats where the final will be, and even if he has to come back to NZ, same travel schedule as the canes.

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                                Proctor was in career form at the start of the season. Even some early chatter of higher honours. He's been a very good defender for a number of years but it was in attack that I saw the marked improvement.

                                Given Jordie is starting at centre I think we can put it in the bank that Boyd would've started Proctor if he were fit. All things being equal this is probably their best backline:

                                10 Barrett
                                11 Savea
                                12 Laumape
                                13 Proctor
                                14 NMS
                                15 Barrett

                                22 Black 23 Aso

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  Proctor was in career form at the start of the season. Even some early chatter of higher honours. He's been a very good defender for a number of years but it was in attack that I saw the marked improvement.

                                  Given Jordie is starting at centre I think we can put it in the bank that Boyd would've started Proctor if he were fit. All things being equal this is probably their best backline:

                                  10 Barrett
                                  11 Savea
                                  12 Laumape
                                  13 Proctor
                                  14 NMS
                                  15 Barrett

                                  22 Black 23 Aso

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

                                  Proctor was in career form at the start of the season. Even some early chatter of higher honours. He's been a very good defender for a number of years but it was in attack that I saw the marked improvement.

                                  Given Jordie is starting at centre I think we can put it in the bank that Boyd would've started Proctor if he were fit. All things being equal this is probably their best backline:

                                  10 Barrett
                                  11 Savea
                                  12 Laumape
                                  13 Proctor
                                  14 NMS
                                  15 Barrett

                                  22 Black 23 Aso

                                  And earlier in the season you might even consider Aso snaking Savea for the starting spot. Aso has done well at centre, but he has really shone on the wing.

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                                  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in Lions v Hurricanes (SF):

                                    Proctor was in career form at the start of the season. Even some early chatter of higher honours. He's been a very good defender for a number of years but it was in attack that I saw the marked improvement.

                                    Given Jordie is starting at centre I think we can put it in the bank that Boyd would've started Proctor if he were fit. All things being equal this is probably their best backline:

                                    10 Barrett
                                    11 Savea
                                    12 Laumape
                                    13 Proctor
                                    14 NMS
                                    15 Barrett

                                    22 Black 23 Aso

                                    And earlier in the season you might even consider Aso snaking Savea for the starting spot. Aso has done well at centre, but he has really shone on the wing.

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                                    @Paekakboyz Savea looked trim and ready to play early on in the season. I liked what I saw, but then his form drifted and agree Aso was the better performed winger. With the injuries to NMS and Proctor, Aso has taken his opportunities with both hands.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader, yeah Jules was looking the part early on. Funny how so much of the Canes recent development is due to NMS and Proctor picking up injuries. Definitely a silver lining! Plus we've had Jane and Ben Lam in the wings... umm wings... you know what I mean 🙂

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                                        I haven't been all that impressed with NMS since his return, I'd probably lean towards Aso there eh.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          I haven't been all that impressed with NMS since his return, I'd probably lean towards Aso there eh.

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                                          @Bones yeah he hasn't set the world on fire. But his positioning has been good and he's had a few 'almost' moments. Hopefully he can rediscover that irresistible form.

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