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Springboks v All Blacks

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    akan004
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    SBW was not good at all. I rate the guy but his performances this year have been underwhelming to say the least.

    Was also disappointed with Scott Barrett. He fell off a lot of tackles and PT was a huge step up off the bench. For the Boks, Marx and Estebeth were unbelievably good. Marx just put in the best performance from a forward in a test match I think I have ever seen.

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      I thought SBW was huge on defence. Saw him make a few cover tackles..
      In attack, I was worried every time they passed him the ball

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        @stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks:

        Wow, red! A bit harsh?

        Late unnecessary contact made it a penalty.. using the elbow made it a yellow...making contact with the neck/head made it red. Left the ref no choice.

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        @crucial said in Springboks v All Blacks:

        @stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks:

        Wow, red! A bit harsh?

        Late unnecessary contact made it a penalty.. using the elbow made it a yellow...making contact with the neck/head made it red. Left the ref no choice.

        Add in jumping to ensure the contact with neck/head, FFS what a stupid fluffybunny. He pretty much did everything possible to get himself off the field.

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          And that game made me realise: I'm fine with ABs being "boringly dominant". Blood pressure is cool with enjoying the close hard-fought games between sides where I only have a slight preference for the winner.
          Also, well done Boks... a brutal 90 minutes to wake us up at the perfect time.

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            SBW was not good at all. I rate the guy but his performances this year have been underwhelming to say the least.

            Was also disappointed with Scott Barrett. He fell off a lot of tackles and PT was a huge step up off the bench. For the Boks, Marx and Estebeth were unbelievably good. Marx just put in the best performance from a forward in a test match I think I have ever seen.

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            @akan004 said in Springboks v All Blacks:

            SBW was not good at all. I rate the guy but his performances this year have been underwhelming to say the least.

            Was also disappointed with Scott Barrett. He fell off a lot of tackles and PT was a huge step up off the bench. For the Boks, Marx and Estebeth were unbelievably good. Marx just put in the best performance from a forward in a test match I think I have ever seen.

            No, he didn't. According to the match stats, he only missed 2 tackles.

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              I thought SBW was huge on defence. Saw him make a few cover tackles..
              In attack, I was worried every time they passed him the ball

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              @mimic said in Springboks v All Blacks:

              I thought SBW was huge on defence. Saw him make a few cover tackles..
              In attack, I was worried every time they passed him the ball

              Yes, on attack SBW was poor, but he made 22 tackles (the most of all players!) and missed only one. Source: ESPN

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                @akan004 said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                SBW was not good at all. I rate the guy but his performances this year have been underwhelming to say the least.

                Was also disappointed with Scott Barrett. He fell off a lot of tackles and PT was a huge step up off the bench. For the Boks, Marx and Estebeth were unbelievably good. Marx just put in the best performance from a forward in a test match I think I have ever seen.

                No, he didn't. According to the match stats, he only missed 2 tackles.

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                akan004
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                @stargazer Will have to watch it again but it seemed like he slipped off more than a couple upon first viewing.

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                  akan004
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                  Stuff gave SBW an 8.5 and DMac and Crotty a 7 each. Were they even watching the same game?

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                    @mimic said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                    I thought SBW was huge on defence. Saw him make a few cover tackles..
                    In attack, I was worried every time they passed him the ball

                    Yes, on attack SBW was poor, but he made 22 tackles (the most of all players!) and missed only one. Source: ESPN

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                    @stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                    @mimic said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                    I thought SBW was huge on defence. Saw him make a few cover tackles..
                    In attack, I was worried every time they passed him the ball

                    Yes, on attack SBW was poor, but he made 22 tackles (the most of all players!) and missed only one. Source: ESPN

                    Which would be bloody grand if he wasn't the one turning the ball over forcing everyone to have to make those extra tackles.

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                      98blueandgold
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                      I hope South Africa can learn to play that way every week!!! Great to have a test.
                      In saying that they lost, let's reflect how good ABs were to win that with all adversity with players out inj etc as well as handling errors!
                      Can't fault any ABs, all played there part, DMAC, never thought he would stand up to this type of test but proven wrong and happy for it.
                      All the SBW hate, get over it! He did his job, his d with Crotty has been amazing. On attack he is not going to make every offload stick but in the greater scheme he attracts players and opens space which doesn't show on stats.

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                        Nice to see that Garces has learnt the offside law about playing a ball from a knock on by your own player.

                        Remarkably similar to last time but he didn't "make a deal" and cost us a match and series. Obviously has his betting account being watched now.

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                          Nice to see that Garces has learnt the offside law about playing a ball from a knock on by your own player.

                          Remarkably similar to last time but he didn't "make a deal" and cost us a match and series. Obviously has his betting account being watched now.

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                          @snowy

                          Wasn’t that Poirot?

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                            @snowy

                            Wasn’t that Poirot?

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                            @dmx said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                            @snowy

                            Wasn’t that Poirot?

                            It was Garces from the sideline that told Poite to change it to a scrum.

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                              I hope South Africa can learn to play that way every week!!! Great to have a test.
                              In saying that they lost, let's reflect how good ABs were to win that with all adversity with players out inj etc as well as handling errors!
                              Can't fault any ABs, all played there part, DMAC, never thought he would stand up to this type of test but proven wrong and happy for it.
                              All the SBW hate, get over it! He did his job, his d with Crotty has been amazing. On attack he is not going to make every offload stick but in the greater scheme he attracts players and opens space which doesn't show on stats.

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                              Bones
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                              @98blueandgold I'm pretty sure Williams' job isn't to turn over the ball every second touch.

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                                @snowy

                                Wasn’t that Poirot?

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                                @dmx said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                                @snowy

                                Wasn’t that Poirot?

                                Damn Belgian refs!

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                                  I would blame autocorrect but that was me!

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                                    My concern with sbw , he seems to be out of sync with the rest of the backline lately ,

                                    Initially it was his X factor in attack which was his strength , more recently , he resembles a forward standing in the backline

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                                      Marx was outstanding, but reckon as usual Marshall prone to hyperbole claiming it was the most complete performance ever.

                                      Great to see a solid Bok team!

                                      Red card was a joke, yellow yes, although at that point in game effectively the same thing, except he now has a Visit to the judiciary.

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                                        Marx was outstanding, but reckon as usual Marshall prone to hyperbole claiming it was the most complete performance ever.

                                        Great to see a solid Bok team!

                                        Red card was a joke, yellow yes, although at that point in game effectively the same thing, except he now has a Visit to the judiciary.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                                        Marx was outstanding, but reckon as usual Marshall prone to hyperbole claiming it was the most complete performance ever.

                                        Great to see a solid Bok team!

                                        Red card was a joke, yellow yes, although at that point in game effectively the same thing, except he now has a Visit to the judiciary.

                                        Contact with head meant it had to be red.
                                        As for Marx a lot of his 'moments' at the breakdown were only good because he had the support of the ref. His running etc was great but in another game he would have been pinged off the park

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks:

                                          Marx was outstanding, but reckon as usual Marshall prone to hyperbole claiming it was the most complete performance ever.

                                          Great to see a solid Bok team!

                                          Red card was a joke, yellow yes, although at that point in game effectively the same thing, except he now has a Visit to the judiciary.

                                          Contact with head meant it had to be red.
                                          As for Marx a lot of his 'moments' at the breakdown were only good because he had the support of the ref. His running etc was great but in another game he would have been pinged off the park

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                                          taniwharugby
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                                          @crucial doesnt always happen though does it, however that rule is supposed to be ruled.

                                          Same as lifting tackles, they looks at the resultant potential injury (or lack of) on the landing as a factor in determining the colour of the card, regardless of how bad the lift was.

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