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AB's v Wales

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @kruse said in AB's v Wales:

    Our forward pack containing only 2 first-choice players...
    Luckily everybody's all about the wide/expansive/"playing with intent" game nowadays, and all that forwards-nonsense doesn't matter anymore.

    The backline is only really one player short of full strength (or two depending on wing selection)

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    @crucial said in AB's v Wales:

    @kruse said in AB's v Wales:

    Our forward pack containing only 2 first-choice players...
    Luckily everybody's all about the wide/expansive/"playing with intent" game nowadays, and all that forwards-nonsense doesn't matter anymore.

    The backline is only really one player short of full strength (or two depending on wing selection)

    Yeah we're missing two - but we're deep into our depth chart for those two positions. 4th FB, and 3rd for Right Wing.

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      This is Wales’ best shot since 2004 but the changes don’t make us worse than last weak. I think fully fit Luke will be more effective than Crocked Read, I expect heaps of tackles from him and Cane with Squire able to play wider. You would also expect Sam Whitelock to have a lot more opportunities with the arm band in the future. If we can get through this we will just be that much deeper for next year.

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        After Whitelock (L) was leaked only surprise Rieko. Seems shoulder not right but they're choosing to risk it. But one decent fall away from further injuring it and reconstruction time.
        Odd that after replacing JK Akira is on outer -- or do ABs see him as 6 only?

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          After Whitelock (L) was leaked only surprise Rieko. Seems shoulder not right but they're choosing to risk it. But one decent fall away from further injuring it and reconstruction time.
          Odd that after replacing JK Akira is on outer -- or do ABs see him as 6 only?

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          @pakman said in AB's v Wales:

          After Whitelock (L) was leaked only surprise Rieko. Seems shoulder not right but they're choosing to risk it. But one decent fall away from further injuring it and reconstruction time.
          Odd that after replacing JK Akira is on outer -- or do ABs see him as 6 only?

          I think with Squire being tasked with playing fairly wide, they want someone who is comfortable playing a tighter role. And that's certainly Whitelock.

          So yeah, they see Ioane as more of a 6 option.

          I've been impressed by Whitelock for the past couple of seasons so don't think he doesn't deserve to be there. Ioane's time will come.

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            Hopefully it's last chance saloon for Harris. Has been less than impressive this year.

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              So do some posters still think that Akira Ioane is higher up the pecking order than Luke Whitelock? I'm very happy for Luke, he was gifted a test cap years before he was actually ready, and was perhaps deservedly ridiculed by some people because of this. However he has become a very reliable and accurate player for both Canterbury and the Highlanders and has thoroughly deserved this call-up. I hope he plays really well.

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              • Cantab79C Cantab79

                So do some posters still think that Akira Ioane is higher up the pecking order than Luke Whitelock? I'm very happy for Luke, he was gifted a test cap years before he was actually ready, and was perhaps deservedly ridiculed by some people because of this. However he has become a very reliable and accurate player for both Canterbury and the Highlanders and has thoroughly deserved this call-up. I hope he plays really well.

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                @cantab79 I expect it is horses for courses, Luke is most certainly a better option to start IMO, but if you were choosing between Akira or Luke off the bench, I'd take Akira.

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                • Cantab79C Cantab79

                  So do some posters still think that Akira Ioane is higher up the pecking order than Luke Whitelock? I'm very happy for Luke, he was gifted a test cap years before he was actually ready, and was perhaps deservedly ridiculed by some people because of this. However he has become a very reliable and accurate player for both Canterbury and the Highlanders and has thoroughly deserved this call-up. I hope he plays really well.

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                  @cantab79 As an 8 sure. Its quite clear ABs see Akira as a 6 at this stage.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @cantab79 As an 8 sure. Its quite clear ABs see Akira as a 6 at this stage.

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                    @kiwimurph that too....haha

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                      Steve Hansen explaining why he picked Sam Whitelock as the captain and not Cane or BB; also about Luke Whitelock coming in for Read:

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @cantab79 As an 8 sure. Its quite clear ABs see Akira as a 6 at this stage.

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                        @kiwimurph said in AB's v Wales:

                        @cantab79 As an 8 sure. Its quite clear ABs see Akira as a 6 at this stage.

                        Which means he’s going to have to work even harder because it seems right now Akira is 3rd or 4th blindside option

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                          @kiwimurph said in AB's v Wales:

                          @cantab79 As an 8 sure. Its quite clear ABs see Akira as a 6 at this stage.

                          Which means he’s going to have to work even harder because it seems right now Akira is 3rd or 4th blindside option

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                          @act-crusader I think he just needs to keep improving - he's the youngest of the bunch. He'll have plenty of opportunity in Super Rugby to push his claims. He certainly had a better 2017 than 2016 but still has a long way to develop further.

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                            my bet on Wales is looking better and better.

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                            • JayCeeJ JayCee

                              Excited about Whitelock's captaincy - could be the shot in the arm this team needs.

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                              @jaycee said in AB's v Wales:

                              Excited about Whitelock's captaincy - could be the shot in the arm this team needs.

                              Shit, for a minute there I thought you meant Luke

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                my bet on Wales is looking better and better.

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                                @mariner4life said in AB's v Wales:

                                my bet on Wales is looking better and better.

                                Good on you for trying not to sound so happy

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  my bet on Wales is looking better and better.

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                                  @mariner4life said in AB's v Wales:

                                  my bet on Wales is looking better and better.

                                  Well, if not that then at least the 18.5 point start.

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                                    @mariner4life said in AB's v Wales:

                                    my bet on Wales is looking better and better.

                                    Well, if not that then at least the 18.5 point start.

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                                    @milk the margin betting is ridiculous

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @milk the margin betting is ridiculous

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                                      @mariner4life did you get that on TAB or elsewhere?

                                      what are other betting agencies odds? TAB are always skewed heavily when ABs play anyone.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @mariner4life did you get that on TAB or elsewhere?

                                        what are other betting agencies odds? TAB are always skewed heavily when ABs play anyone.

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                                        @taniwharugby Sportsbet. Wales out to $8 now. Line at 17.5

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @taniwharugby Sportsbet. Wales out to $8 now. Line at 17.5

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                                          @mariner4life said in AB's v Wales:

                                          @taniwharugby Sportsbet. Wales out to $8 now. Line at 17.5

                                          The 18.5 points start is at the NZ tab. ($6 head to head)

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