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AB's v Wales

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    Crash
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    On Whitelock’s captaincy….
    About time Samwise of the Whitelocks was handed the captain’s armband.
    I was at the Principality Stadium in 2015 for the RWC quarter final against France, and I was most impressed with Sam Whitelock – he was simply outstanding.
    With his partner in crime BBBR - he just kept trucking it up into heavy contact (those French boys were pretty big units) all night, they marked up on him too, often 2 or 3 in the tackle. And he didn’t shirk his defensive duties in the tight either; tackling, hitting ruck after ruck, shifting bodies, getting up, tackling again, seeking out the next contact area.
    This season for the Crusaders he was a revelation - commanding respect, when the chips were down, he gathered the team together, gave a few pointed comments (seemingly something like just farking get on with it and lets win this thing) and simply rolled up his sleeves himself. Definitely a captain in the mould of “over the top with me, boys”
    He is a better option to captain the ABs than Read IMHO. Read is just too smiley. I just don’t think he has the gravitas to press his claims with the Ref at vital times as much as he should, and equally for the team when the going is tough. He is just too well…nice. I think Sam will say it how it is. A no-nonsense approach.
    Can’t wait.

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    • P pakman

      @gt12 Suspect Read has been tighter partly in response to BBBR, Franks and Moody being out. Have noticed Squire has been loitering out wide, and scored a couple of nice tries as a result. Whitelock probably being asked to play a 'tight Read' game.

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      @pakman said in AB's v Wales:

      @gt12 Suspect Read has been tighter partly in response to BBBR, Franks and Moody being out. Have noticed Squire has been loitering out wide, and scored a couple of nice tries as a result. Whitelock probably being asked to play a 'tight Read' game.

      The roles have changed as when Kaino was the 6 he played tighter allowing Read to roam in the wider channels. This year Read has assumed the tighter role while Squire plays wider.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        WALES TEAM TO PLAY NEW ZEALAND
        (Saturday 25 November KO 17.15)

        Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (72 Caps)
        Hallam Amos (Dragons) (13 Caps)
        Scott Williams (Scarlets) (49 Caps)
        Owen Williams (Gloucester) (2 Caps)
        Steff Evans (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
        Dan Biggar (Ospreys) (58 Caps)
        Rhys Webb (Ospreys) (29 Caps);

        1. Rob Evans (Scarlets) (18 Caps)
        2. Ken Owens (Scarlets) (51 Caps)
        3. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (25 Caps)
        4. Jake Ball (Scarlets) (27 Caps)
        5. Alun Wyn Jones (CAPT) (Ospreys) (111 Caps)
        6. Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (11 Caps)
        7. Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues) (5 Caps)
        8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath) (68 Caps)

        REPLACEMENTS:
        16. Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues) (6 Caps)
        17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (3 Caps)
        18. Leon Brown (Dragons) (2 Caps)
        19. Cory Hill (Dragons) (8 Caps)
        20. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (51 Caps)
        21. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (26 Caps)
        22. Rhys Priestland (Bath) (49 Caps)
        23. Jamie Roberts (Harlequins) (93 Caps)

        Best we can do I guess considering the squad and injuries.

        Would have had Watkin instead of Roberts.

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        Bovidae
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        @mikethesnow

        Why isn't Tipuric starting?

        I didn't see the Wales-Aust game so have no idea how Navidi played.

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          Didn't watch much Crusaders in SR, but watched them v Lions. Was not impressed with Sam's captaincy in that game, at all.

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          • RapidoR Rapido

            Didn't watch much Crusaders in SR, but watched them v Lions. Was not impressed with Sam's captaincy in that game, at all.

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            @rapido said in AB's v Wales:

            Didn't watch much Crusaders in SR, but watched them v Lions. Was not impressed with Sam's captaincy in that game, at all.

            Why?

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            • RapidoR Rapido

              Didn't watch much Crusaders in SR, but watched them v Lions. Was not impressed with Sam's captaincy in that game, at all.

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              @rapido said in AB's v Wales:

              Didn't watch much Crusaders in SR, but watched them v Lions. Was not impressed with Sam's captaincy in that game, at all.

              Pretty small sample size then. I watched almost all of the 'Saders games and I was dead impressed with his leadership. One of the reasons they won it I reckon.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @rapido said in AB's v Wales:

                Didn't watch much Crusaders in SR, but watched them v Lions. Was not impressed with Sam's captaincy in that game, at all.

                Pretty small sample size then. I watched almost all of the 'Saders games and I was dead impressed with his leadership. One of the reasons they won it I reckon.

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                taniwharugby
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                @snowy yep, those early games when they fought back from so far behind as they built into the season and then becoming the first team to win an away final....vs the Lions.

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                  SouthernMann
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                  Another advantage to Luke Wgitelock is the partnership he has with Squire as a 6/8, they play week in, week out together. So there isn't much of a shake up with the loose trio by bringing him in. While he hasn't played much with Cane, he's probably played 25 games with Liam Squire.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @mikethesnow

                    Why isn't Tipuric starting?

                    I didn't see the Wales-Aust game so have no idea how Navidi played.

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                    @bovidae said in AB's v Wales:

                    @mikethesnow

                    Why isn't Tipuric starting?

                    I didn't see the Wales-Aust game so have no idea how Navidi played.

                    First game back from injury.

                    Navidi went OK. Plenty of dog. Came on against Georgia and didn't have a big impact.

                    Solid club player who's had two good seasons but only there because of injury.

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                      Big Sam is going to get a haircut and shave next week. He will look like his dad but with more hair. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/99243914/all-blacks-lock-shaving-beard-and-head-to-help-7yearold

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                        Come on guys. Patience and discipline.

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                          Justin Harrison being a smart arse about the Haka

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                            Wayne Barnes.

                            FML

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                              chimoaus
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                              Fuk me 4am is early. Good luck boys.

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                                chimoaus
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                                Good D from ABs, nice phase play Wales. BB drops a shocker, lucky Ioane was there.

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                                  Fuk me SBW what was that potato.

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                                    Stargazer
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                                    Phew, well done BB. Try saver.

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                                      Telling mistakes early on.

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                                        Phew, well done BB. Try saver.

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                                        @stargazer Hopefully they don’t score here. Worrying start with a few early errors.

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                                        • JCJ JC

                                          Telling mistakes early on.

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                                          @jc and plenty of them

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