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AB's v Wales

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    Wayne Barnes has absolutely no idea what's going on at rucks. I don't know why I'm being specific. He's a dreadful referee.

    Also; how is Ofa an All Black? Seriously.

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      Wayne Barnes has absolutely no idea what's going on at rucks. I don't know why I'm being specific. He's a dreadful referee.

      Also; how is Ofa an All Black? Seriously.

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      @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @rancid-schnitzel said in AB's v Wales:

        @nepia said in AB's v Wales:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel I've used it for years - you're talking about arguments everyone on the Fern uses, we're all hypocritical in that respect. Also, where did I label anyone a hater? I said there were posters whinging about him.

        Sure, if you use that argument then everyone else must. As I said, you bitching about knights riding in to defend a player no matter what is absolutely hilarious.

        If you want to pretend I'm somehow worse than everyone else on the Fern then go for your life, although, if I hadn't have mentioned BB's performance you likely wouldn't have bothered responding.

        @Tim I think he's actually all good for once isn't he?

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        @nepia said in AB's v Wales:

        @rancid-schnitzel said in AB's v Wales:

        @nepia said in AB's v Wales:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel I've used it for years - you're talking about arguments everyone on the Fern uses, we're all hypocritical in that respect. Also, where did I label anyone a hater? I said there were posters whinging about him.

        Sure, if you use that argument then everyone else must. As I said, you bitching about knights riding in to defend a player no matter what is absolutely hilarious.

        If you want to pretend I'm somehow worse than everyone else on the Fern then go for your life, although, if I hadn't have mentioned BB's performance you likely wouldn't have bothered responding.

        @Tim I think he's actually all good for once isn't he?

        Actually didn't care about BB criticism. There was plenty of it before you chimed in. What I reacted to was your comment about "knights" defending a player no matter what, particularly since it was coming from you.

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          Probably a completely pointless bit of info, but it's interesting that the 2 locks in the 7 man scrum were Barrett and Squire. Obviously there is a question mark (by many) about these 2 being in black, but they must be farking strong to be able to pull that off not once but 3 times.

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            @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

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            @family-man said in AB's v Wales:

            @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

            At what? His defence? Carrying? Scrummaging?

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @family-man said in AB's v Wales:

              @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

              At what? His defence? Carrying? Scrummaging?

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              @antipodean said in AB's v Wales:

              @family-man said in AB's v Wales:

              @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

              At what? His defence? Carrying? Scrummaging?

              He gets no credit for the seven man scrums that held on attack and defence against Wales? They also got a penalty out of one of them.

              He defence has been good, today he had a bit of the droppsies, but his core role was very good.

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                You can have scrummaging - he's improved immensely in that area.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  Wayne Barnes has absolutely no idea what's going on at rucks. I don't know why I'm being specific. He's a dreadful referee.

                  Also; how is Ofa an All Black? Seriously.

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                  @antipodean said in AB's v Wales:

                  Wayne Barnes has absolutely no idea what's going on at rucks. I don't know why I'm being specific. He's a dreadful referee.

                  Also; how is Ofa an All Black? Seriously.

                  Because we have really weak depth in certain positions, tighthead being one of them. Loosehead is even worse.

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                  • F family man

                    @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

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                    @family-man said in AB's v Wales:

                    @antipodean ofa has done a great job this year and deserves his place

                    @antipodean

                    I agree with Leyton. Thought Ofa did really well. Part of the dominant 7 man scrum and apart from one tackle where he got knocked backwards (did we score subsequently?) Was good around the park. Lifting must have been ok as we went ok at lineout time.

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                      Pat T had a quiet game but it was good to see him make two lineout steals in the 1st half. He's generally pretty good at that (when he attacks the opposition lineout), but is pretty average as a lineout target. Weird.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Pat T had a quiet game but it was good to see him make two lineout steals in the 1st half. He's generally pretty good at that (when he attacks the opposition lineout), but is pretty average as a lineout target. Weird.

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                        @tim started well with some thumping hits but faded badly in the first half, and couldn't hack the pace. Definitely a bench only player at this stage, doesnt have the tank to start.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @tim started well with some thumping hits but faded badly in the first half, and couldn't hack the pace. Definitely a bench only player at this stage, doesnt have the tank to start.

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                          @mariner4life It was strange that he wasn't used much as a ball carrier. Neither was Squire.

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                            @mariner4life It was strange that he wasn't used much as a ball carrier. Neither was Squire.

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                            @tim said in AB's v Wales:

                            @mariner4life It was strange that he wasn't used much as a ball carrier. Neither was Squire.

                            When he was on we had no ball to carry

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                              @tim said in AB's v Wales:

                              @mariner4life It was strange that he wasn't used much as a ball carrier. Neither was Squire.

                              When he was on we had no ball to carry

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                              @booboo He wasn't even used to hit it up in our 22 before the clearing kick. I was surprised at that.

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                                There are still some question marks over Tuipulotu's scrummaging as well. He's easily the worst of the 5 locks despite his bulk.

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                                  There are still some question marks over Tuipulotu's scrummaging as well. He's easily the worst of the 5 locks despite his bulk.

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                                  @bovidae As a Blues fan, his inconsistency and inability at set piece has been extremely frustrating.

                                  Maybe it's related to all the hip and spine injuries he's had?

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                                    Luke Whitelock was busy early on, but after he was attended to for an injury he went quiet.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      You can have scrummaging - he's improved immensely in that area.

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                                      @antipodean said in AB's v Wales:

                                      You can have scrummaging - he's improved immensely in that area.

                                      I wouldn't say immensely. You have to remember that when he first came on to the scene, he was playing LH because Charlie was playing TH. For the Blues, whenever Ofa moved to TH he was always solid. He just looks good in the scrums for the ABs because he is now playing TH instead of LH.

                                      His ball carrying is fine (although sometimes he runs it too upright sometimes), especially when you compare him to Owen, but he's definitely no Charlie with the silky skills of a back.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @tim started well with some thumping hits but faded badly in the first half, and couldn't hack the pace. Definitely a bench only player at this stage, doesnt have the tank to start.

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                                        @mariner4life said in AB's v Wales:

                                        @tim started well with some thumping hits but faded badly in the first half, and couldn't hack the pace. Definitely a bench only player at this stage, doesnt have the tank to start.

                                        It was one of my concerns after the team was named. He’s shown to be a very effective 15-20 minute guy at the end of a match.

                                        In saying that I thought Scott Barrett was very busy and provided a bit of spark.

                                        Did Laulala get injured? Was a little surprised at how early they brought on Tu’ungafasi.

                                        Does feel good that the ABs went through the tour undefeated even though there were some scratchy performances.

                                        Now where’s those last two Aussie threads.... 🙂

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                                          @chester-draws said in AB's v Wales:

                                          @nostrildamus

                                          Since when do we need fullbacks to make dominant tackles?

                                          Compared to Dagg, McKenzie is a tackling genius.

                                          Never really given it much thought , but I would probably agree with that ,

                                          Mckenzie despite his faults is a good defender , copy book tackles around the legs .

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in AB's v Wales:

                                          @chester-draws said in AB's v Wales:

                                          @nostrildamus

                                          Since when do we need fullbacks to make dominant tackles?

                                          Compared to Dagg, McKenzie is a tackling genius.

                                          Never really given it much thought , but I would probably agree with that ,

                                          Mckenzie despite his faults is a good defender , copy book tackles around the legs .

                                          He made one, round the legs, front-on tackle on a Taff front-rower which killed the Welsh attack stone-dead.

                                          Think he needs to sort out his decison-making when he get the ball on defence - too much headless-chicken, cross-field running. That said, he's done OK this year filling in for Bender & Izzy.

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