All Blacks v France Test 3
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@majorrage
The fact that ALB & SBW aren't a settled pair kinda proves my point.
A year and a bit out from RWC2019 and it's 2 out of ALB/SBW/Crotty - sometimes in different positions.
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@majorrage
The fact that ALB & SBW aren't a settled pair kinda proves my point.
A year and a bit out from RWC2019 and it's 2 out of ALB/SBW/Crotty - sometimes in different positions.
I'm beginning to wonder if that is such a bad thing.
Although we were lucky to have Nonu/Smith, the times they couldn't play together caused no end of headaches at times (eg Ben Smith filling in)
There aren't many teams around that don't get issues around injuries in the centres these days and hoping for a pair that are available more often than not may be wishful thinking.
Having the available combos with Crotty moving between the two jerseys is great. -
@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
@bones :grinning_face:
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@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
@bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
They are missing this
swb
meaning 'Safe White Boy' is an adjective pronounced (swub). This is a rugby player, usually a back and playing for a Canterbury based team. They are notably boring and are selected instead of more mercurial brown players.
eg
Did you see who is selected on the wing?
Oh yea. another swb! He's unlikely to cause problemsDo not confuse with SBW
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@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
Lokk, I'm dislcksic KO?
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@bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@wreck-diver said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@victor-meldrew SWB and Crotty are the starters if fit for any test
They are missing this
swb
meaning 'Safe White Boy' is an adjective pronounced (swub). This is a rugby player, usually a back and playing for a Canterbury based team. They are notably boring and are selected instead of more mercurial brown players.
eg
Did you see who is selected on the wing?
Oh yea. another swb! He's unlikely to cause problemsDo not confuse with SBW
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@majorrage
The fact that ALB & SBW aren't a settled pair kinda proves my point.
A year and a bit out from RWC2019 and it's 2 out of ALB/SBW/Crotty - sometimes in different positions.
I'm beginning to wonder if that is such a bad thing.
Although we were lucky to have Nonu/Smith, the times they couldn't play together caused no end of headaches at times (eg Ben Smith filling in)
There aren't many teams around that don't get issues around injuries in the centres these days and hoping for a pair that are available more often than not may be wishful thinking.
Having the available combos with Crotty moving between the two jerseys is great.You could well be right. But I do worry it just doesn't give us that edge that continuity does.
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
@crucial said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
Do not confuse with SBW
...or BFA for that matter.
Correct. Not all WBs are SWBs
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Benjamin, Waisake, Jack, Sonny Bill, Rieko, Damian, Aaron
Luke, Ardie, Shannon, Scott, Samuel, Owen, Codie, JosephKarl, Liam, Ofa, Jackson, Matthew, TJ, Richard, Jordan.
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http://www.allblacks.com/News/32593/all-blacks-team-named-for-third-test
The matchday 23 is as follows (with Test caps in brackets. New Test All Blacks are in bold):-
Joe Moody (33)
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Codie Taylor (31)
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Owen Franks (97)
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Samuel Whitelock (98) - captain
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Scott Barrett (18)
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Shannon Frizell
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Ardie Savea (24)
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Luke Whitelock (4)
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Aaron Smith (73)
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Damian McKenzie (14)
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Rieko Ioane (15)
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Sonny Bill Williams (46)
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Jack Goodhue
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Waisake Naholo (18)
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Ben Smith (65)
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Liam Coltman (1)
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Karl Tu'inukuafe (2)
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Ofa Tuungafasi (16)
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Jackson Hemopo
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Matt Todd (13)
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TJ Perenara (44)
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Richie Mo'unga
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Jordie Barrett (4)
excited about that midfield.
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I'm excited by the team in that it seems crazy, look at the loose forward trio! Seeing SBW start doesn't seem weird until you realise it's his first game back from injury, and last time he was so quickly upto speed, yeah right. Then he paired with a debutante! Frizzle had played Almost no top class minutes, hemopo only a little more. Impact DMac and Ardie start for steady Todd and mo'unga.
I hope they play well cos I'm owed after blowing 140 on a ticket last weekend!
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That’s a loose forward trio you should only see play in a midweek game back in the 90’s.
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Interesting that team is a real B grade/2nd choice team, with most of the A/first choice players coming back from injury/suspension
Joe Moody A - injury/suspension
Codie Taylor B (tho been almost as good as a top Coles for a while)
Owen Franks A - injury/suspension
Samuel Whitelock A - injury/suspension
Scott Barrett B
Shannon Frizell C or D
Ardie Savea B
Luke Whitelock B
Aaron Smith A
Damian McKenzie B
Rieko Ioane A
Sonny Bill Williams A - injury/suspension
Jack Goodhue C
Waisake Naholo B
Ben Smith A -
Interesting that team is a real B grade/2nd choice team, with most of the A/first choice players coming back from injury/suspension
Joe Moody A - injury/suspension
Codie Taylor B (tho been almost as good as a top Coles for a while)
Owen Franks A - injury/suspension
Samuel Whitelock A - injury/suspension
Scott Barrett B
Shannon Frizell C or D
Ardie Savea B
Luke Whitelock B
Aaron Smith A
Damian McKenzie B
Rieko Ioane A
Sonny Bill Williams A - injury/suspension
Jack Goodhue C
Waisake Naholo B
Ben Smith A@machpants how the fuck did Luke Whitelock get a B?
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Not so much a B grade but he is second choice, according to the ABs selectors - not my grading just where the selectors seem to be picking. If read not fit, whitelock plays. Same a Goodhue, not a C grade player but still third choice midfield after Crotty/SBW/ALB trio of 12,13 and bench.
So A= AB starter/first choice
B=AB bench/second choice
C or D= are 3rd or 4th choice - getting a go for building depth, or because of injuries -
That loose forward trio...imagine 2 months back saying that those 3 would start the 3rd AB test v France....
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That loose forward trio...imagine 2 months back saying that those 3 would start the 3rd AB test v France....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
That loose forward trio...imagine 2 months back saying that those 3 would start the 3rd AB test v France....
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Interesting that team is a real B grade/2nd choice team, with most of the A/first choice players coming back from injury/suspension
Joe Moody A - injury/suspension
Codie Taylor B (tho been almost as good as a top Coles for a while)
Owen Franks A - injury/suspension
Samuel Whitelock A - injury/suspension
Scott Barrett B
Shannon Frizell C or D
Ardie Savea B
Luke Whitelock B
Aaron Smith A
Damian McKenzie B
Rieko Ioane A
Sonny Bill Williams A - injury/suspension
Jack Goodhue C
Waisake Naholo B
Ben Smith A@machpants Still seeing Taylor as a 2nd choice is completely ridiculous. Coles has been out of action for so long, that we can't even be sure he'll reach top level again. Taylor has also made so much progress, that he has reached that top level Coles was on before getting injured. He's well and truly the top dog at hooker.
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@machpants said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
(tho been almost as good as a top Coles for a while)
True thus: "(tho been almost as good as a top Coles for a while)", but the ABs always say you can't lose your place because of injury
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Yeah, well, living in deepest rural Cornwall, my need for an urban dictionary is about as likely as an England support treasuring a Mike Brown autograph.
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France Test 3:
Yeah, well, living in deepest rural Cornwall, my need for an urban dictionary is about as likely as an England support treasuring a Mike Brown autograph.
Geez fella! Cornish cider? I wasn't even replying to you...
