All Blacks v France Test 3

[ShadowTrooper]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life

France

I think Nanai has been far better than him at SR level

If you go back to 2016 plenty of non Blues fans were suggesting him as an outside chance of making the AB's. I think that was the year be played for the Baabaas at Twickers and went well (Greenwood was a coach and thought he was next AB winger)

He's goten himself offside with the franchise coach since then.

I would not be surprised if he had success immediately at another franchise

he seems to have to have the tools. I wonder what his mental application and work ethic is like? His basic skill set ticks a lot of boxes, but he is a long way from the required standard at the moment. As you say, a new franchise (or a new coach) looks essential if he is to do anything with his career in NZ

We'll gladly take Nanai off your hands at the Chiefs...and any more discards you want to throw our way

[gt12]

@shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life

France

I think Nanai has been far better than him at SR level

If you go back to 2016 plenty of non Blues fans were suggesting him as an outside chance of making the AB's. I think that was the year be played for the Baabaas at Twickers and went well (Greenwood was a coach and thought he was next AB winger)

He's goten himself offside with the franchise coach since then.

I would not be surprised if he had success immediately at another franchise

he seems to have to have the tools. I wonder what his mental application and work ethic is like? His basic skill set ticks a lot of boxes, but he is a long way from the required standard at the moment. As you say, a new franchise (or a new coach) looks essential if he is to do anything with his career in NZ

We'll gladly take Nanai off your hands at the Chiefs...and any more discards you want to throw our way

Foe sure, Alaimalo, Nanai, Stevenson as a back three would be very Super Rugby awesome.

[canefan]

@shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

I’m not suggesting dmac replace beaudy, far from it ,

But it is worth noting he gave our backline a different shape last night

Yes but....that was only because our bloody pack fronted this week

It was heartening to see our pack play more direct in the game. That period culminating in the try not given to Frizell was brilliant

[mariner4life]

@shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life

France

I think Nanai has been far better than him at SR level

If you go back to 2016 plenty of non Blues fans were suggesting him as an outside chance of making the AB's. I think that was the year be played for the Baabaas at Twickers and went well (Greenwood was a coach and thought he was next AB winger)

He's goten himself offside with the franchise coach since then.

I would not be surprised if he had success immediately at another franchise

he seems to have to have the tools. I wonder what his mental application and work ethic is like? His basic skill set ticks a lot of boxes, but he is a long way from the required standard at the moment. As you say, a new franchise (or a new coach) looks essential if he is to do anything with his career in NZ

We'll gladly take Nanai off your hands at the Chiefs...and any more discards you want to throw our way

We'll? Your? Where do you think I'm from?

[Bones]

@mariner4life North Queensland.

[mariner4life]

@bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life North Queensland.

Nailed it bruss

[ShadowTrooper]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life North Queensland.

Nailed it bruss

D'yall have six fingers and toes?

[kiwiinmelb]

@shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

I’m not suggesting dmac replace beaudy, far from it ,

But it is worth noting he gave our backline a different shape last night

Yes but....that was only because our bloody pack fronted this week

It allowed him to play better , yes ,

But i was talking about his passing game gave us a different look

[pakman]

@pukunui said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

Not like Kaino was fast.

JK was not a bad sprinter at school.

[kiwiinmelb]

@mn5 said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@bones said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

Did remind me though. Is Franks that bad at taking the ball up that they have just given up on working with him? He's dropping to the floor at the slightest hint of a tackle and never attempts any kind of leg drive. Surely the coaches can improve that easily?

I remember chatting with old fern mate Red Beard about this. It is a mystery why someone so strong in the gym ( particularly at Olympic style lifting ) has all the impact of a fly hitting a windshield when taking the ball up. If it hasn't improved by now I doubt it ever will.

Most of the guys you speak of are very slow at point of impact , hard to generate that type of power when you are hardly moving

[pukunui]

@pakman said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@pukunui said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

Not like Kaino was fast.

JK was not a bad sprinter at school.

And from 2011-2015 when he was at his rugby peak?
His running speed would be well down the list of attributes i would use to describe Kaino.
It may never happen anyway but lack of speed is a silly reason for saying Barrett couldn't cover 6.
I would much prefer that than Fifita covering lock.

[Rapido]

The closest historic example of refereeing interference.

Wales v South Africa 2011 RWC, Wayne Barnes blazes the trail for the runner No physical contact made though. The try stood.

[Wally]

@pukunui said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@pakman said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@pukunui said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

Not like Kaino was fast.

JK was not a bad sprinter at school.

And from 2011-2015 when he was at his rugby peak?
His running speed would be well down the list of attributes i would use to describe Kaino.
It may never happen anyway but lack of speed is a silly reason for saying Barrett couldn't cover 6.
I would much prefer that than Fifita covering lock.

The equation for kinetic energy is half mass times velocity squared i.e. much more dependent on speed than size.

[Nepia]

@shadowtrooper said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@mariner4life

France

I think Nanai has been far better than him at SR level

If you go back to 2016 plenty of non Blues fans were suggesting him as an outside chance of making the AB's. I think that was the year be played for the Baabaas at Twickers and went well (Greenwood was a coach and thought he was next AB winger)

He's goten himself offside with the franchise coach since then.

I would not be surprised if he had success immediately at another franchise

he seems to have to have the tools. I wonder what his mental application and work ethic is like? His basic skill set ticks a lot of boxes, but he is a long way from the required standard at the moment. As you say, a new franchise (or a new coach) looks essential if he is to do anything with his career in NZ

We'll gladly take Nanai off your hands at the Chiefs...and any more discards you want to throw our way

The poor Blues. We're already taking the Ioane off their hands because Fern favourite Blake Gibson is a bully.

[Rapido]

More gifs, I've discovered a new toy. But I'm struggling with embedding them on here .....

Serin movement before ball is out

You can see that Lacey has finished refereeing the scrum and now wants to back out of the way towards the French posts, but Serin has moved too soon and is blocking him.

It's hard to exonerate a ref who has got in the way, but it looks to me like he is doing an orthodox move.

Interestingly I don't think Lacey himself really knew the law on 'refereeing obstruction' judging by the question he asked the TMO. To be fair not many did, including myself.

Alternative angle

If Smith had dummied and gone himself - while the lossies were out of the picture, I think he would have been tackled before the line by the cover defence, McKenzie was hitting that at pace. Smart play by Smith.!

[Duluth]

@rapido said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

More gifs, I've discovered a new toy. But I'm struggling with embedding them on here .....

You were just missing the .gif on those links

[mariner4life]

That's a perfect attack. Scrum wheeled to take the loosies out. Halfback isolated by a beautiful unders line at pace by DMac, and SBW/Ioane holding their width. The only thing you can really hammer the French for is the fullback committing to go right far too early, worried about SBW and an offload? Beautiful piece of rugby.

[Rapido]

@duluth said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@rapido said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

More gifs, I've discovered a new toy. But I'm struggling with embedding them on here .....

You were just missing the .gif on those links

Thanks. Sorted.

Next. Watch out world when I learn how to put flashing yellow arrows on my gifs.

[taniwharugby]

@rapido dunno he was slip streaming the Dmac line so likely woulda dotted down momentarily later.

Still thing the French 9 has contributed by pushing the ref toward Dmacs line and making the referees positioning worse.

[Rapido]

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France Test 3:

@rapido

Still thing the French 9 has contributed by pushing the ref toward Dmacs line and making the referees positioning worse.

Absolutely he has.

Serin has broken early, offside, preventing Lacey from getting out of the way. If he had waited 1 second and broken from the scrum legally then Lacey would be out of the way. But the huge gap would have been there for DMac.

A great try optically ruined as I said in an earlier post.

Lacey will be/is getting slaughtered in the media and social media. I'd have more sympathy for him if he had his wits about him and communicated that the defender hitting him was irrelevant or that Serin caused the contact. But he didn't, he asked the TMO to check if he blocked the tackler and then decided that he didn't 'materially' effect the play.