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Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF

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  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

    DMac is there over Mo’unga because several NZ rugby journalists and the AB’s brains trust seem to be blindly in love with the razzle dazzle and “exciting risk taking” of DMac. Which is so amazing that we have to convert him to first five so he can cause even more damag... err... sorry... exciting plays.

    Yeah, I’m still sulking about last week.

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    @donsteppa said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

    DMac is there over Mo’unga because several NZ rugby journalists and the AB’s brains trust seem to be blindly in love with the razzle dazzle and “exciting risk taking” of DMac. Which is so amazing that we have to convert him to first five so he can cause even more damag... err... sorry... exciting plays.

    Yeah, I’m still sulking about last week.

    DMac is the RWC2019 Marc Ellis. There to beat up some minnow on a flat track. Please please please lets have BB and Mounga in the first choice 23 for the important games.

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      Why is an Englishman doing the post match interview for the Canes?

      NZ Super Rugby captaincy roles should be strictly limited to players with allegiance to the All Blacks.

      🎣

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        Two things.

        1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB? No work rate, no impact and he was walking around like he had been going for 80 mins instead of 5. If i had to pick a Canes loose forward for the ABs it eoukd be Evans.

        2. Has a deliberate knock down really jumped from a penalty to an automatic yellow card as the commentators seem to keep suggesting? Or are they talking shit again. Either way im sick of these things. Turning me off the game big time.

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          @donsteppa said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

          DMac is there over Mo’unga because several NZ rugby journalists and the AB’s brains trust seem to be blindly in love with the razzle dazzle and “exciting risk taking” of DMac. Which is so amazing that we have to convert him to first five so he can cause even more damag... err... sorry... exciting plays.

          Yeah, I’m still sulking about last week.

          DMac is the RWC2019 Marc Ellis. There to beat up some minnow on a flat track. Please please please lets have BB and Mounga in the first choice 23 for the important games.

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          @dingo said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

          @donsteppa said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

          DMac is there over Mo’unga because several NZ rugby journalists and the AB’s brains trust seem to be blindly in love with the razzle dazzle and “exciting risk taking” of DMac. Which is so amazing that we have to convert him to first five so he can cause even more damag... err... sorry... exciting plays.

          Yeah, I’m still sulking about last week.

          DMac is the RWC2019 Marc Ellis. There to beat up some minnow on a flat track. Please please please lets have BB and Mounga in the first choice 23 for the important games.

          Some people are being a little unfair to DMac. He is #2 because he 'won' the position by playing well against the French. Hansen likes players who has done the job for him in the past and he has done that. I don't recall a lot about Marc Ellis but D Mac is no flat track bully. He is one of the best attacking players in the game. He is probably the best player in the world at creating something from nothing. His problem is that he makes glaring errors (interceptions and charge downs). Even when Beauden isn't on form, it's rare he is a liability.

          Maybe you lose a game 12-6 with D Mac playing but more often the score isn't going to be close like that when he is out there.

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          • pukunuiP pukunui

            Two things.

            1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB? No work rate, no impact and he was walking around like he had been going for 80 mins instead of 5. If i had to pick a Canes loose forward for the ABs it eoukd be Evans.

            2. Has a deliberate knock down really jumped from a penalty to an automatic yellow card as the commentators seem to keep suggesting? Or are they talking shit again. Either way im sick of these things. Turning me off the game big time.

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            @pukunui said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

            1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB?

            He's a 'special athlete'.

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            • pukunuiP pukunui

              Two things.

              1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB? No work rate, no impact and he was walking around like he had been going for 80 mins instead of 5. If i had to pick a Canes loose forward for the ABs it eoukd be Evans.

              2. Has a deliberate knock down really jumped from a penalty to an automatic yellow card as the commentators seem to keep suggesting? Or are they talking shit again. Either way im sick of these things. Turning me off the game big time.

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              @pukunui said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

              Two things.

              1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB? No work rate, no impact and he was walking around like he had been going for 80 mins instead of 5. If i had to pick a Canes loose forward for the ABs it eoukd be Evans.

              2. Has a deliberate knock down really jumped from a penalty to an automatic yellow card as the commentators seem to keep suggesting? Or are they talking shit again. Either way im sick of these things. Turning me off the game big time.

              If a deliberate knock down is ever going to be a yellow, Tamanivalu basically had to go. You can dive and catch a rugby ball but he only dived with one out stretched hand. I think a deliberate knock should only be a yellow if it is also a professional foul but that isn't how it has been ruled.

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                @pukunui said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB?

                He's a 'special athlete'.

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                @frank said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                @pukunui said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                1. How the fuck is Fifita an AB?

                He's a 'special athlete'.

                He's not on the plane to Yokohama yet

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                  @dingo said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                  @donsteppa said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                  DMac is there over Mo’unga because several NZ rugby journalists and the AB’s brains trust seem to be blindly in love with the razzle dazzle and “exciting risk taking” of DMac. Which is so amazing that we have to convert him to first five so he can cause even more damag... err... sorry... exciting plays.

                  Yeah, I’m still sulking about last week.

                  DMac is the RWC2019 Marc Ellis. There to beat up some minnow on a flat track. Please please please lets have BB and Mounga in the first choice 23 for the important games.

                  Some people are being a little unfair to DMac. He is #2 because he 'won' the position by playing well against the French. Hansen likes players who has done the job for him in the past and he has done that. I don't recall a lot about Marc Ellis but D Mac is no flat track bully. He is one of the best attacking players in the game. He is probably the best player in the world at creating something from nothing. His problem is that he makes glaring errors (interceptions and charge downs). Even when Beauden isn't on form, it's rare he is a liability.

                  Maybe you lose a game 12-6 with D Mac playing but more often the score isn't going to be close like that when he is out there.

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                  @hydro11 said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                  I don't recall a lot about Marc Ellis

                  "I don't recall a lot about Marc Ellis"

                  All you need to know about Marc Ellis is why is famous from a RWC perspective. He is famous for it due to a similar characteristic he shares with DMac. Not just being an outside back moved inside but he also looks for what is on for himself first because he backs himself (in my opinion). Its both what makes him good and bad (in a team game) at the same time.

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                    Canes need a new attack coach. Carlos is coming in next year so hope he can full this role because the current one is completely and utterly hopeless. For example why not try Aso starting at 2nd with Laumape coming on with 20 left to try and smash through as an alternative. Team needs to try variety not a limited boring game plan

                    What I hope is the coaches change has disrupted things and they can right the ship next year. As the team has been disappointing to watch this year. They look like they are just going through the motions with no real fire or enthusiasm.

                    But the Crusaders at full strength (two years running now) are difficult to beat at home. Especially against an injury depleted (two years running now - Canes need to look at conditioning staff etc as its getting to the point where questions need to be asked) poorly coached Canes side.

                    I hope the Canes can sort this slump out as I find watching them a bit boring now. Losing and exciting I don't mind too much. Losing and boring I do

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      Good to see Dane Coles stringing a few words together as waterboy in the post game huddle

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                      @canefan said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                      Good to see Dane Coles stringing a few words together as waterboy in the post game huddle

                      He's one player we need fully fit and back as captain.

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                        Looking at that effort from the Canes, the Chiefs were robbed. They would have at least given the Crusaders something to think about and a fight to the death. Most of that 2nd half was a half-hearted effort from the Canes.

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                        • WingerW Winger

                          Canes need a new attack coach. Carlos is coming in next year so hope he can full this role because the current one is completely and utterly hopeless. For example why not try Aso starting at 2nd with Laumape coming on with 20 left to try and smash through as an alternative. Team needs to try variety not a limited boring game plan

                          What I hope is the coaches change has disrupted things and they can right the ship next year. As the team has been disappointing to watch this year. They look like they are just going through the motions with no real fire or enthusiasm.

                          But the Crusaders at full strength (two years running now) are difficult to beat at home. Especially against an injury depleted (two years running now - Canes need to look at conditioning staff etc as its getting to the point where questions need to be asked) poorly coached Canes side.

                          I hope the Canes can sort this slump out as I find watching them a bit boring now. Losing and exciting I don't mind too much. Losing and boring I do

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                          @winger said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                          I hope the Canes can sort this slump out as I find watching them a bit boring now. Losing and exciting I don't mind too much. Losing and boring I do

                          You need to recruit DMac then....

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            Taufua hasn’t been the same since the International break.

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                            @act-crusader said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                            Taufua hasn’t been the same since they move him to 6.

                            Fixed. He is clearly a better 8 than a 6.

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                              I must say, after all the bullshit ref bagging going on in the NRL right now, it’s great to listen to a losing coach (of a semi final no less) being humble and accepting they were beaten by the better team and not looking for excuses or blaming the ref.

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                                @act-crusader said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                Taufua hasn’t been the same since they move him to 6.

                                Fixed. He is clearly a better 8 than a 6.

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                                @stargazer said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                @act-crusader said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                Taufua hasn’t been the same since they move him to 6.

                                Fixed. He is clearly a better 8 than a 6.

                                But the same level of effort just isn’t there regardless of the number of his jersey.

                                Looks very laboured and is not carrying ball strong.

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                                  Much more disciplined effort by the Crusaders this week. Very few penalties allowing them to dominate possession - especially in the first half.

                                  Defence was excellent - apart from letting in that soft try at the end.

                                  Was that Siataga's first appearance for the Crusaders? On the plus side he gets about 90 seconds of play-off experience that he wasn't expecting. On the downside, he gets a broken arm.

                                  Thought Julian Savea had a good game to sign off for the Canes. Probably looked their most threatening back - perhaps along with Perenara, who was pretty good.

                                  Canes forwards stood up pretty well in most facets for most of the game - apart from the lineout.

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @canefan said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                    Good to see Dane Coles stringing a few words together as waterboy in the post game huddle

                                    He's one player we need fully fit and back as captain.

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                                    @winger said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                    @canefan said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                    Good to see Dane Coles stringing a few words together as waterboy in the post game huddle

                                    He's one player we need fully fit and back as captain.

                                    Will be very important in Japan too. Remember how we did vs the Lions without Coles?

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                                    • ShadowTrooperS ShadowTrooper

                                      Looking at that effort from the Canes, the Chiefs were robbed. They would have at least given the Crusaders something to think about and a fight to the death. Most of that 2nd half was a half-hearted effort from the Canes.

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                                      @shadowtrooper said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                      Looking at that effort from the Canes, the Chiefs were robbed. They would have at least given the Crusaders something to think about and a fight to the death. Most of that 2nd half was a half-hearted effort from the Canes.

                                      Perhaps the Chiefs should have executed a little bit better last weekend.....

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                                      • ShadowTrooperS ShadowTrooper

                                        Looking at that effort from the Canes, the Chiefs were robbed. They would have at least given the Crusaders something to think about and a fight to the death. Most of that 2nd half was a half-hearted effort from the Canes.

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                                        @shadowtrooper said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                        Looking at that effort from the Canes, the Chiefs were robbed. They would have at least given the Crusaders something to think about and a fight to the death. Most of that 2nd half was a half-hearted effort from the Canes.

                                        It’s that sort of logic that makes TSF World renowned.

                                        We would’ve fed off Weber and DMacs mistakes all night long.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @shadowtrooper said in Crusaders v Hurricanes - SF:

                                          Looking at that effort from the Canes, the Chiefs were robbed. They would have at least given the Crusaders something to think about and a fight to the death. Most of that 2nd half was a half-hearted effort from the Canes.

                                          It’s that sort of logic that makes TSF World renowned.

                                          We would’ve fed off Weber and DMacs mistakes all night long.

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                                          @act-crusader
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