All Blacks v Springboks
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Good game. Enjoyed it. Pity about the loss, but can't win them all aye?
Our game got beaten by a team that kept making their tackles, and took their opportunities. Well done to SA, a deserved and great win.
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A few things learnt
1 BBBR is definetly missed
2 some of the younger players still have a bit of learning to do in high pressure games (Goodhue the exception)
3 high risk fast paced rugby is great but it is exactly that and some times the ball just wont bounce your way (literally) and sometimes the game may need to be slowed down
4 Beaden Barrett will miss a few kicks but we don't lose too many tests when he is on the park
5 Ben Smith is playing his best rugby, shame he seemed to be under utilised in the second half -
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
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http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
Those stats don't take into account the difficulty of the kicks. What they could suggest though is that Jordie was taking the harder kicks given BB's total attempted was around 2/3rds that of Dmac or Mounga with Jordie making up the difference. From memory they shared the kicking a fair bit with JB doing exactly that.
What the stats clearly show is that Lima had a bad year kicking.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
Those stats don't take into account the difficulty of the kicks. What they could suggest though is that Jordie was taking the harder kicks given BB's total attempted was around 2/3rds that of Dmac or Mounga with Jordie making up the difference. From memory they shared the kicking a fair bit with JB doing exactly that.
What the stats clearly show is that Lima had a bad year kicking.
@pukunui Yeah - but, the conversion stats especially aren't a bad guide.
What they do indicate is that usually Beauden would sink those easy ones he missed last night.
Apropos to very little - I can remember years ago seeing a snooker documentary where they got some of the top players to take something like a thousand identical and pretty easy shots. Steve Davis - who was the best player in the world at the time did significantly better than the next best guys. Would be interesting to see the same thing in a goal kicking contest.
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No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
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No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
@pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:
No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
He's had a weird thing of kicking sideline conversions, but duffing easy ones in front of the posts. Maybe too relaxed?
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Sydney Morning Herald's Team of the Week
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Steven Kitshoff (South Africa)
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Malcolm Marx (South Africa)
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Frans Malherbe (South Africa)
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Franco Mostert (South Africa)
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Tomas Lavanini (Argentina)
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Pablo Matera (Argentina)
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Siya Kolisi (South Africa)
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Warren Whiteley (South Africa)
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Faf de Klerk (South Africa)
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Nicholas Sanchez (Argentina)
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Aphiwe Dyanti (South Africa)
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Handre Pollard (South Africa)
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Jesse Kriel (South Africa)
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Ben Smith (New Zealand)
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Willie le Roux (South Africa)
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/worrying-signs-as-woeful-wallabies-hit-a-new-low-20180916-p5044a.html
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Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
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Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
Codie Taylor was the best forward on the park in both tests.
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Kriel didn't play center. I guess I should just stop there.Will.not.mention.that.pack.between.them.would.be.surviving.on.scraps.
@rapido I guess he at least slotted in there when replacements were made...however that probably coincided with Goodhue tearing shit up.
Although, I am mildly impressed they managed to figure that Kolisi is an openside despite playing in 6. Seems many posters here can't even figure that one.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Squire will miss the rest of the RC. Hope they bring in Akira.
What for? Don’t you know they picked 8 blindside flankers in the squad.
In all seriousness, Frizzell will be given further opportunity.
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I have a half arsed theory that Beaudy's kicking tee is way too high.
Looks like he's using the tee you would use with your driver, except he's playing a par three.
It just looks like the margin of error is way too high off such a high tee.
I haven't really spent much time checking to see what type of tee other kickers are using.
Regardless of that, his kick trajectory is wildly inconsistent, he doesn't seem to be sure if he's trying a draw or a fade or a straight kick trajectory.
One of the latter misses looked to me like his foot was way off where it should have been contacting the ball.
The drop kick palaver, short memory guys, short memory.
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Kriel didn't play center. I guess I should just stop there.Will.not.mention.that.pack.between.them.would.be.surviving.on.scraps.
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@mikethesnow you're usually fairly onto it, but Smith was getting dominated physically by a midget. Consistently. Was stoked when Perenara came on, only to watch him spray it like Charlie Baileygates.
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Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
The usual media overreaction. Also not buying into this talk from many that we were beaten by a better team on the day. We beat ourselves really with sheer stupidity at times and of course Beauden's misses.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
The usual media overreaction. Also not buying into this talk from many that we were beaten by a better team on the day. We beat ourselves really with sheer stupidity at times and of course Beauden's misses.
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
The usual media overreaction. Also not buying into this talk from many that we were beaten by a better team on the day. We beat ourselves really with sheer stupidity at times and of course Beauden's misses.
I must’ve missed the part when there were 30 guys in black jersey’s on the park.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
The usual media overreaction. Also not buying into this talk from many that we were beaten by a better team on the day. We beat ourselves really with sheer stupidity at times and of course Beauden's misses.
@akan004 you should have seen the English punters all over it with glee yesterday, that's the kind of thing that makes it really hard to support them even after living here ten years. Greenwood and Barnes were delighted.
Edit: just remembered they also declared the AB England match is a non event and the boks are the big game in the "autumn" internationals.
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Well done Boks, that win is fair enough. Drove us back in many tackles and rattled the current 2 time world player of the year.
"Only as good as your last game"
2 stand outs for me:
Best example of goalkicking losing a game you'll ever see, perhaps the only example in professional rugby.
Lost to Boks at home because the antecedent of Don Clarke, Allen Hewson, Grant Fox, Andrew Mehrtens and Dan Carter ( to name a few) couldn't land kicks a 16 year old would nail!!??
That's not fucking happening again I should hope!
Secondly, can we plan for a half hour of possession and territory play, you know the type of percentage play that is the bedrock of All Black rugby, the stuff we forged our record with?
Only 30 mins worth, say if we get a start and the opposition fluke 2 tries and the lead, perhaps we could grind and play tight and patient for 25 mins or so. Can always helter skelter in the second half.Loved Karl T. today
Compulsory sing along in the sheds, Led Zeppelin, "Nobody's fault but mine"
6 tries and lose, dickheads
@siam said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Lost to Boks at home because the antecedent of Don Clarke, Allen Hewson, Grant Fox, Andrew Mehrtens and Dan Carter ( to name a few) couldn't land kicks a 16 year old would nail!!??
The Boot used to kick ‘em long range, out of the mud, no kicking tee. With the toe of his boot. I guess by the time Fox was around they were using small mounds of dirt.
Beauden’s shitshow landing place kicks yesterday has me as vexxed and mystified as when Anton Oliver couldn’t throw into the lineout straight. Try some practice drills. All the tools and elements of the modern game are there. If you practice-practice-practice and still can’t find the greens and make your putts, maybe it’s time to find another putter, or spend some more time practicing.
