AB EOYT 2018
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@southernmann said in AB EOYT 2018:
Is Brett Cameron signed to play for the Crusaders for next year? Or is he still without a contract for next year?
I wonder what Reuben O'Neill's Super Rugby future is looking like too?
I haven't seen any information about him being signed (including information about contract duration) for 2018, but doesn't mean much. Sometimes franchises don't announce signings.
@stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:
@southernmann said in AB EOYT 2018:
Is Brett Cameron signed to play for the Crusaders for next year? Or is he still without a contract for next year?
I wonder what Reuben O'Neill's Super Rugby future is looking like too?
I haven't seen any information about him being signed (including information about contract duration) for 2018, but doesn't mean much. Sometimes franchises don't announce signings.
From Stuff's Rob van Royen:
https://twitter.com/RobertvanRoyen/status/1051658005001908224
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@tim I think Ta$man has probably come off best from the latest All Blacks announcement. Their favouritism for the title would have gone up a few notches, especially if they can get Frizzell back.
@canes4life said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim I think Ta$man has probably come off best from the latest All Blacks announcement. Their favouritism for the title would have gone up a few notches, especially if they can get Frizzell back.
Pretty unlikely we'll get Frizell in the next couple of weeks if he's unfit to tour with the ABs in a month - unless he's got a long term niggly injury and is having surgery.
We might get Tim Perry, though - and Liam Squire may need a run.
Hansen mentioned that Jordan Taufua could have been ready to play rugby midway through the NH tour, but they've opted not to pick him. (So Ta$man won't get him).
And we won't get Kane Hames.
Hopefully we won't lose Lomax or Havili.
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@rapido said in AB EOYT 2018:
Interesting re: the drinking in Dunedin, and how the selectors have explained subsequent omissions.
Laumape was needing to work on his communication.
Akira needing to work on his whatever.I'm taking form this that the current management aren't prepared to publicly crucify social behaviour if it isn't already outed in the media, and will come up with rugby explanations for ommisions. Although to be fair, Akira really, really does have some raw parts to his game.
D'arcy Waldegrave is going to be interviewing Grant Fox after 5pm on Radiosport and they were just discussing whether it was really true that Akira is only about 12th best loose forward in NZ and planned to ask him about it.
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@canes4life said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim I think Ta$man has probably come off best from the latest All Blacks announcement. Their favouritism for the title would have gone up a few notches, especially if they can get Frizzell back.
Pretty unlikely we'll get Frizell in the next couple of weeks if he's unfit to tour with the ABs in a month - unless he's got a long term niggly injury and is having surgery.
We might get Tim Perry, though - and Liam Squire may need a run.
Hansen mentioned that Jordan Taufua could have been ready to play rugby midway through the NH tour, but they've opted not to pick him. (So Ta$man won't get him).
And we won't get Kane Hames.
Hopefully we won't lose Lomax or Havili.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
Pretty unlikely we'll get Frizell in the next couple of weeks if he's unfit to tour with the ABs in a month - unless he's got a long term niggly injury and is having surgery.
Nigel Yalden said it's a rotator-cuff issue that doesn't require surgery.
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So they'll pick Frizzel from the Highlanders bench, raw as all fuck with about 100 "work ons" and even put him into the starting 15.
But they'll make Akira, dominating at Super level, wait and wait and wait because they've identified some small areas he needs to improve on.
Good one.
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@chris-b
I guess in their eyes he is the 4th best 8 (possibly fifth), and not on the radar at 6, so doesn't get a shot.
My best guess at the selectors rankings (and that's not counting Taufua): Read, Squire/Ardie, Whitelock, Ioane
@gt12 Yeah - I'd guess Ardie has pushed LWhitelock a step down the pecking order, but Luke is still ahead of Akira.
I guess there's also a question about where Taufua slots in.
I think Squire is the first choice six, so they'd be reluctant to shift him to eight until they were a fair way down the pecking order.
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Akira is going to blast the RWC to pieces. They just aren't bringing him in so that no one gets a look at him. It would seem odd a player gets so much contact with the squad but then doesn't get selected...until you consider the previous sentence.
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
Is Harris dropped? I was expecting to see him named in the main squad.
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@stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:
@southernmann said in AB EOYT 2018:
Is Brett Cameron signed to play for the Crusaders for next year? Or is he still without a contract for next year?
I wonder what Reuben O'Neill's Super Rugby future is looking like too?
I haven't seen any information about him being signed (including information about contract duration) for 2018, but doesn't mean much. Sometimes franchises don't announce signings.
From Stuff's Rob van Royen:
https://twitter.com/RobertvanRoyen/status/1051658005001908224
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Akira is going to blast the RWC to pieces. They just aren't bringing him in so that no one gets a look at him. It would seem odd a player gets so much contact with the squad but then doesn't get selected...until you consider the previous sentence.
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
Is Harris dropped? I was expecting to see him named in the main squad.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
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@gt12 Yeah - I'd guess Ardie has pushed LWhitelock a step down the pecking order, but Luke is still ahead of Akira.
I guess there's also a question about where Taufua slots in.
I think Squire is the first choice six, so they'd be reluctant to shift him to eight until they were a fair way down the pecking order.
@chris-b
Yeah, that's why I put him and Ardie together. However, were Frizell or Taufua available, they may move Squire, but either way, that still puts him fourth, without thinking of Taufua. In my opinion, he should be 2nd, and therefore going, but he's done something - or is yet to do something.
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
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@smudge Cheers. For my purposes, that doesn't count as evidence of him being signed, but it's good to know.
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@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....
@kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....
Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?
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I thought he'd signed with Landers. I must have my players around the wrong way.
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@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
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@chris-b
Yeah, that's why I put him and Ardie together. However, were Frizell or Taufua available, they may move Squire, but either way, that still puts him fourth, without thinking of Taufua. In my opinion, he should be 2nd, and therefore going, but he's done something - or is yet to do something.
@gt12 In all honesty, @Steven-Harris post in tandem with the info the magpie in aus posted about his Dunedin trip rings pretty true.
When you watch Akira, you don't see a hell of a lot missing from his game. There's far more raw people been picked for the ABs, including in the loose forwards.
I don't really buy the "better off in the Maori" explanation. Akira's played a heap of rugby this year with a heap of opportunities to work on his KPIs.
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@kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....
Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@tim said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.
I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?
Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.
...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....
Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?
That 3rd test DMac had everything perfectly lined up to suit his strengths - a dead rubber last rugby game of the season for the French players under the roof (i.e. fast paced footy). Just slightly different scenario to say when Mo'unga came on at 10 for the ABs in Pretoria
As for your second question I believe since that French test in Dunedin DMac went on to have a shocking quarter final against the Canes playing at 10.... so yes.
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@stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:
@southernmann said in AB EOYT 2018:
Is Brett Cameron signed to play for the Crusaders for next year? Or is he still without a contract for next year?
I wonder what Reuben O'Neill's Super Rugby future is looking like too?
I haven't seen any information about him being signed (including information about contract duration) for 2018, but doesn't mean much. Sometimes franchises don't announce signings.
From Stuff's Rob van Royen:
https://twitter.com/RobertvanRoyen/status/1051658005001908224
@smudge What an idiot Brett Cameron is then. He can enjoy playing for Lincoln Uni at grounds such as Rawhiti Domain and Linfield Park instead of starting regularly for someone like the Highlanders then.
