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AB EOYT 2018

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @gt12 Yeah - I'd guess Ardie has pushed LWhitelock a step down the pecking order, but Luke is still ahead of Akira.

    I guess there's also a question about where Taufua slots in.

    I think Squire is the first choice six, so they'd be reluctant to shift him to eight until they were a fair way down the pecking order.

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    @chris-b

    Yeah, that's why I put him and Ardie together. However, were Frizell or Taufua available, they may move Squire, but either way, that still puts him fourth, without thinking of Taufua. In my opinion, he should be 2nd, and therefore going, but he's done something - or is yet to do something.

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    • TimT Tim

      @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

      Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

      I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

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      @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

      @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

      Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

      I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

      Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @smudge Cheers. For my purposes, that doesn't count as evidence of him being signed, but it's good to know.

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        @stargazer

        I thought he'd signed with Landers. I must have my players around the wrong way.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

          Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

          I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

          Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

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          @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

          Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

          I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

          Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

          ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

            Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

            I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

            Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

            ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

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            @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

            Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

            I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

            Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

            ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

            Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?

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            • gt12G gt12

              @stargazer

              I thought he'd signed with Landers. I must have my players around the wrong way.

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              @gt12 Cameron? I haven't heard that rumour. Are you confusing him with Fletcher Smith? Not that there has been an announcement of F Smith being (re)signed by the Landers, but at least he's been in the team.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

                I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

                Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

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                Tim
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                @bones He certainly had his usual high workrate, and his usual low impact. Not many effective tackles or ball carries in those games. Even against 14 men.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @chris-b

                  Yeah, that's why I put him and Ardie together. However, were Frizell or Taufua available, they may move Squire, but either way, that still puts him fourth, without thinking of Taufua. In my opinion, he should be 2nd, and therefore going, but he's done something - or is yet to do something.

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                  @gt12 In all honesty, @Steven-Harris post in tandem with the info the magpie in aus posted about his Dunedin trip rings pretty true.

                  When you watch Akira, you don't see a hell of a lot missing from his game. There's far more raw people been picked for the ABs, including in the loose forwards.

                  I don't really buy the "better off in the Maori" explanation. Akira's played a heap of rugby this year with a heap of opportunities to work on his KPIs.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

                    I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

                    Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

                    ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

                    Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?

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                    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

                    I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

                    Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

                    ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

                    Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?

                    That 3rd test DMac had everything perfectly lined up to suit his strengths - a dead rubber last rugby game of the season for the French players under the roof (i.e. fast paced footy). Just slightly different scenario to say when Mo'unga came on at 10 for the ABs in Pretoria

                    As for your second question I believe since that French test in Dunedin DMac went on to have a shocking quarter final against the Canes playing at 10.... so yes.

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                      • SmudgeS Smudge

                        @stargazer said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @southernmann said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        Is Brett Cameron signed to play for the Crusaders for next year? Or is he still without a contract for next year?

                        I wonder what Reuben O'Neill's Super Rugby future is looking like too?

                        I haven't seen any information about him being signed (including information about contract duration) for 2018, but doesn't mean much. Sometimes franchises don't announce signings.

                        From Stuff's Rob van Royen:

                        https://twitter.com/RobertvanRoyen/status/1051658005001908224

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                        @smudge What an idiot Brett Cameron is then. He can enjoy playing for Lincoln Uni at grounds such as Rawhiti Domain and Linfield Park instead of starting regularly for someone like the Highlanders then.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @gt12 Cameron? I haven't heard that rumour. Are you confusing him with Fletcher Smith? Not that there has been an announcement of F Smith being (re)signed by the Landers, but at least he's been in the team.

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                          @stargazer

                          I really didn't know who he was... I was confusing him with McKay!! Probably Shark's fault.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @gt12 In all honesty, @Steven-Harris post in tandem with the info the magpie in aus posted about his Dunedin trip rings pretty true.

                            When you watch Akira, you don't see a hell of a lot missing from his game. There's far more raw people been picked for the ABs, including in the loose forwards.

                            I don't really buy the "better off in the Maori" explanation. Akira's played a heap of rugby this year with a heap of opportunities to work on his KPIs.

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                            @chris-b

                            It's the most likely explanation, but if that is the case, he's fucked with this coaching group and will be on the Big Ben T track.

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                              Tim
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                              So Alaalatoa didn't make it. Wonder if he is going to go back to Australia now? Never felt comfortable with that poach.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

                                I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

                                Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

                                ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

                                Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?

                                That 3rd test DMac had everything perfectly lined up to suit his strengths - a dead rubber last rugby game of the season for the French players under the roof (i.e. fast paced footy). Just slightly different scenario to say when Mo'unga came on at 10 for the ABs in Pretoria

                                As for your second question I believe since that French test in Dunedin DMac went on to have a shocking quarter final against the Canes playing at 10.... so yes.

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                                @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                Luke Whitelock the worst selection of the year? Give me a break....he's performed very well in black - and Nehe says hi.

                                I'm thinking of when? Was it when he looked very average and had no physical impact against that tier-2 team France?

                                Yes bingo, when he dominated stats and had a very physical impact against tier-1 France.

                                ...and DMac looked a million bucks at 10 against France at the end of their long season. What a great marker that is.....

                                Why isn't it? Because it doesn't suit certain peoples narratives? Has DMac looked a failure at 10 since?

                                That 3rd test DMac had everything perfectly lined up to suit his strengths - a dead rubber last rugby game of the season for the French players under the roof (i.e. fast paced footy). Just slightly different scenario to say when Mo'unga came on at 10 for the ABs in Pretoria

                                As for your second question I believe since that French test in Dunedin DMac went on to have a shocking quarter final against the Canes playing at 10.... so yes.

                                Ok.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @bones He certainly had his usual high workrate, and his usual low impact. Not many effective tackles or ball carries in those games. Even against 14 men.

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                                  @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  @bones He certainly had his usual high workrate, and his usual low impact. Not many effective tackles or ball carries in those games. Even against 14 men.

                                  Ok.

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                                    Anyone else bored with the Akira stuff?

                                    He’s not selected for the umpteenth time, we know people don’t understand, but there’s only so many vitriolic posts before it becomes...repetitive.

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                                      So for completeness, a starting XV

                                      Moody
                                      Taylor
                                      Franks
                                      Romano
                                      Whitelock
                                      S. Barrett
                                      Todd
                                      Read
                                      Hall
                                      Mo’unga
                                      Bridge
                                      Crotty
                                      Goodhue
                                      Havili
                                      Cameron

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        Anyone else bored with the Akira stuff?

                                        He’s not selected for the umpteenth time, we know people don’t understand, but there’s only so many vitriolic posts before it becomes...repetitive.

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                                        @billy-tell I think the musing about what the ABs are willing to comment on is on the money re Akira. Something isnt stacking up behind the scenes but they are focusing on his vague areas for improvement and how they frame who he's competing against. But that's wearing thin, and is a big talking point imo when he misses out on a bumper squad like this.

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          Anyone else bored with the Akira stuff?

                                          He’s not selected for the umpteenth time, we know people don’t understand, but there’s only so many vitriolic posts before it becomes...repetitive.

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                                          @billy-tell said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          Anyone else bored with the Akira stuff?

                                          He’s not selected for the umpteenth time, we know people don’t understand, but there’s only so many vitriolic posts before it becomes...repetitive.

                                          Akira. Take the money and move to Europe. If these useless bastards don’t understand your talents move on. So a retread like Matt Todd at the age of 30 is more valuable? Fuck me.

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