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2018 November Internationals

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @antipodean

    Good guy, a tough man, close mates with Beauden Barrett. Won the fitness tests at the Hurricanes each year, made the most tackles in games and was a reasonable captain. A man in John Mitchell's own image so that might explain his selection. Probably a better player than Elliott Dixon.

    But weak hands and not being great at lineout or as a ball-carrier meant he was behind Liam Squire, Shannon Frizell and Vaea Fifita in the AB Blindside pecking order. He would probably be on the AB bench this weekend instead of Gareth Evans if he had stuck with the NZRU.

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    @sparky said in 2018 November Internationals:

    @antipodean

    Good guy, a tough man, close mates with Beauden Barrett. Won the fitness tests at the Hurricanes each year, made the most tackles in games and was a reasonable captain. A man in John Mitchell's own image so that might explain his selection. Probably a better player than Elliott Dixon.

    But weak hands and not being great at lineout or as a ball-carrier meant he was behind Liam Squire, Shannon Frizell and Vaea Fifita in the AB Blindside pecking order. He would probably be on the AB bench this weekend instead of Gareth Evans if he had stuck with the NZRU.

    All true, except swap the term 'weak' with 'tits for'.

    I fail to see what relevance being mates with BB is. I'd say BB has some mates that haven't laced up since high school and whose rugby prowess is limited to drinking games.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @derm-mccrum We've Ferners from or living in Ireland.

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      @stargazer said in 2018 November Internationals:

      @derm-mccrum We've Ferners from or living in Ireland.

      Really?

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        @stargazer said in 2018 November Internationals:

        https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1057602209494548480

        Unlikely that Ferners would receive EirSport surely??

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        @derm-mccrum said in 2018 November Internationals:

        @stargazer said in 2018 November Internationals:

        https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1057602209494548480

        Unlikely that Ferners would receive EirSport surely??

        Believe it or not the interweb reaches most places when using a VPN.

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          Ireland team to play Italy in Chicago

          15 Jordan Larmour (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 6
          14 Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 7
          13 Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 14
          12 Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 9
          11 Jacob Stockdale (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 11
          10 Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Munster) 12
          9 Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 6

          1 Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 50
          2 Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) 9
          3 Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 8
          4 Tadhg Beirne (Munster) 2
          5 Quinn Roux (Galwegians/Connacht) 6
          6 Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster) 19 captain
          7 Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 10
          8 Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 9

          Replacements
          16 Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 62
          17 Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 22
          18 Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht) 7
          19 Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 60
          20 Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Ulster) 23
          21 John Cooney (Terenure College/Ulster) 2
          22 Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) *
          23. Will Addison (Enniskillen/Ulster) *

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            Ledesma has named the Pumas' touring squad of 31 players, among whom 5 uncapped players. Of these 5, one has played for Argentina XV (their second team), Rodrigo Bruni. He was in last year's Pumas touring squad but didn't play. The other uncapped players, Santiago Carreras (utility back), Santiago Grondona (loose forward), Lucio Sordoni, Mayco Vivas (both props) played for the Pumitas at this year's WR U20 Championship. Pablo Matera has been named captain for the first time.

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            http://lospumas.com.ar/2018/11/01/los-nombres-la-gira-europa/

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              No Herrera which I assume means no European-based players.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                No Herrera which I assume means no European-based players.

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                @bovidae said in 2018 November Internationals:

                No Herrera which I assume means no European-based players.

                Or Cordero who has being playing very well in the UK.

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                  I thought they had reversed their stupid overseas policy?

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                    #104

                    From article on Americas Rugby News website:

                    Argentine Head Coach Mario Ledesma has made wholesale changes for the end of year tour to Europe. He has named six uncapped players and has dumped a number of veterans.
                    
                    Regulars from the Daniel Hourcade years Ramiro Herrera, Santiago González Iglesias, Juan Manuel Leguizamón and Leonardo Senatore have all been dropped. The decision casts serious doubt over the playing futures for all of them for Argentina.
                    
                    Ledesma has opted not only to leave them at home but to also select six uncapped home based players. Rodrigo Bruni, Santiago Grondona, Santiago Carreras, Lucio Sordoni, Mayco Vivas and Joaquín Díaz Bonilla have all been selected on the 31-man roster.
                    
                    Ledesma cut his roster from 38 to 31 for the tour. The seven players to miss out on playing in Europe are Ramiro Herrera, Santiago González Iglesias, Manuel Montero, Matías Osadczuk, Lucas Paulos, Juan Manuel Leguizamón, and Leonardo Senatore.
                    
                    Not among the 31 players are Europeans. Ledesma has exclusively selected players from Argentina. This includes the non-selection of Ramiro Herrera (Stade Français) who as the only European-based layer involved in the training camp in Buenos Aires.
                    
                    The requirements of the tour may yet see the status altered. Moreover Argentine players involved in the European leagues are to play again this weekend.
                    
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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      From article on Americas Rugby News website:

                      Argentine Head Coach Mario Ledesma has made wholesale changes for the end of year tour to Europe. He has named six uncapped players and has dumped a number of veterans.
                      
                      Regulars from the Daniel Hourcade years Ramiro Herrera, Santiago González Iglesias, Juan Manuel Leguizamón and Leonardo Senatore have all been dropped. The decision casts serious doubt over the playing futures for all of them for Argentina.
                      
                      Ledesma has opted not only to leave them at home but to also select six uncapped home based players. Rodrigo Bruni, Santiago Grondona, Santiago Carreras, Lucio Sordoni, Mayco Vivas and Joaquín Díaz Bonilla have all been selected on the 31-man roster.
                      
                      Ledesma cut his roster from 38 to 31 for the tour. The seven players to miss out on playing in Europe are Ramiro Herrera, Santiago González Iglesias, Manuel Montero, Matías Osadczuk, Lucas Paulos, Juan Manuel Leguizamón, and Leonardo Senatore.
                      
                      Not among the 31 players are Europeans. Ledesma has exclusively selected players from Argentina. This includes the non-selection of Ramiro Herrera (Stade Français) who as the only European-based layer involved in the training camp in Buenos Aires.
                      
                      The requirements of the tour may yet see the status altered. Moreover Argentine players involved in the European leagues are to play again this weekend.
                      
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                      #105

                      A number of All Blacks were at Harlequins' ground The Stoop today doing training with school kids and doing some Q and A:

                      Harlequins 🃏 (@Harlequins) Tweeted:
                      🃏🇳🇿 A brilliant morning here as we welcomed @AllBlacks Codie Taylor, Nepo Laulala and Joe Moody to The Stoop for community coaching sessions with @StJohns_Rugby, @GordonsSch, @tiffingirls_sch, @WaldegraveSch and Sunbury Manor School #COYQ https://t.co/HS4JpAo5wE https://twitter.com/Harlequins/status/1058356622102351872?s=17

                      Harlequins 🃏 (@Harlequins) Tweeted:
                      🇳🇿 This afternoon, we welcomed @AllBlacks Scott Barrett, Karl Tu'inukuafe and Matt Todd for a Q&A and meet and greet session in the Honours Bar #COYQ https://t.co/44hxjq4u5J https://twitter.com/Harlequins/status/1058406615513206788?s=17

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        I'm astonished Shields has been fast tracked into the England setup. It's not like England are short of his type of player. Must be difficult for other players to fathom.

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                        @antipodean said in 2018 November Internationals:

                        I'm astonished Shields has been fast tracked into the England setup.

                        English sport is plagued by the "quick fix". The search for "the next Botham" - with every promising all rounder being selected and then dropped - went on for 20+ years FFS.

                        On the plus side, being able to say "any average kiwi Super 15 player would walk into the England team" is a fun way to put down some of the more boorish armchair England supporters supporters.... :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

                        The real supporters, in the meantime, just despair. I feel for them.

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                          Tuilagi gone. Ashton on the bench. Back to the future...

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/46049714

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                            French Barbarians team to play Tonga, with 5 players from the French U20 team that became world champions this year: Clément Laporte, Pierre-Louis Barassi, Romain Ntamack, Louis Carbonel and Jordan Joseph.

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                              The French Barbarians kit is just outstandingly beautiful.

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                                That French BaaBaas blindside sounds like a bit of an idiot ...

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                                  That French BaaBaas blindside sounds like a bit of an idiot ...

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                                  @scribe Reminds me of former French player Jean Condom. Can only presume his nickname was Johnny!

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                                    @scribe Reminds me of former French player Jean Condom. Can only presume his nickname was Johnny!

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                                    @pakman wasn't former Wallaby lock Mark Chisholm's nickname amongst his team mates, 'Covered In'?

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                                      If anyone is interested, I have got an extra ticket for Wales-Australia on saturday as a mate had to pull off from the trip. Shit company, shit chat, expensive beer and the quality of the game will probably be shit too, pm me if you are keen.

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                                      • SapetyviS Sapetyvi

                                        If anyone is interested, I have got an extra ticket for Wales-Australia on saturday as a mate had to pull off from the trip. Shit company, shit chat, expensive beer and the quality of the game will probably be shit too, pm me if you are keen.

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                                        @sapetyvi said in 2018 November Internationals:

                                        If anyone is interested, I have got an extra ticket for Wales-Australia on saturday as a mate had to pull off from the trip. Shit company, shit chat, expensive beer and the quality of the game will probably be shit too, pm me if you are keen.

                                        What a salesman!

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @sapetyvi said in 2018 November Internationals:

                                          If anyone is interested, I have got an extra ticket for Wales-Australia on saturday as a mate had to pull off from the trip. Shit company, shit chat, expensive beer and the quality of the game will probably be shit too, pm me if you are keen.

                                          What a salesman!

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                                          pakman
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                                          @crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:

                                          @sapetyvi said in 2018 November Internationals:

                                          If anyone is interested, I have got an extra ticket for Wales-Australia on saturday as a mate had to pull off from the trip. Shit company, shit chat, expensive beer and the quality of the game will probably be shit too, pm me if you are keen.

                                          What a salesman!

                                          And gloomy Welsh after the 14th straight loss?

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