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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @canes4life Players have no patience these days. Rather go overseas than work their way up the pecking order and compete for a spot at a SR franchise. It's not mentioned in the media release, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had Irish ancestry with that name. That could mean that - if they hope he'll develop into a test player - he doesn't have to wait 5 years.

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    @stargazer said in Exodus:

    @canes4life Players have no patience these days. Rather go overseas than work their way up the pecking order and compete for a spot at a SR franchise. It's not mentioned in the media release, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had Irish ancestry with that name. That could mean that - if they hope he'll develop into a test player - he doesn't have to wait 5 years.

    Don’t think we’ll see him again. Even though not currently Irish qualified with a name like that he’ll be adopted by the Irish and if he’s any good go on to play for them.

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      @stargazer said in Exodus:

      @canes4life Players have no patience these days. Rather go overseas than work their way up the pecking order and compete for a spot at a SR franchise. It's not mentioned in the media release, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had Irish ancestry with that name. That could mean that - if they hope he'll develop into a test player - he doesn't have to wait 5 years.

      Don’t think we’ll see him again. Even though not currently Irish qualified with a name like that he’ll be adopted by the Irish and if he’s any good go on to play for them.

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      @billy-tell said in Exodus:

      with a name like that

      I really don't think that's a requirement

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      • BonesB Bones

        @billy-tell said in Exodus:

        with a name like that

        I really don't think that's a requirement

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        It's a shame there was no room for Shamus in any of the NZ Super squads.

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        • ToddyT Toddy

          It's a shame there was no room for Shamus in any of the NZ Super squads.

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          @toddy or Tom Florence or Mitch Jacobson.

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          • TimT Tim

            When people post stuff about young players not being willing to stick around to try for a Super Rugby contract, there should be an automated bot response that posts the cost of living index for NZ, and the ratio of median house price to median wage.

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            @tim said in Exodus:

            When people post stuff about young players not being willing to stick around to try for a Super Rugby contract, there should be an automated bot response that posts the cost of living index for NZ, and the ratio of median house price to median wage.

            It's not helped by the structure of NZ rugby either

            40% of pro contracts are in the South Island. 20% are in Dunedin. They do not produce that many pro players. So the system forces a movement of talent from north to south

            More opportunities near the regions that produce the players would allow younger players to stay with family and be picked for a SR Dev side. That still isn't ideal, but asking them to move away from family and get paid fuckall pushes more players overseas

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @tim said in Exodus:

              When people post stuff about young players not being willing to stick around to try for a Super Rugby contract, there should be an automated bot response that posts the cost of living index for NZ, and the ratio of median house price to median wage.

              It's not helped by the structure of NZ rugby either

              40% of pro contracts are in the South Island. 20% are in Dunedin. They do not produce that many pro players. So the system forces a movement of talent from north to south

              More opportunities near the regions that produce the players would allow younger players to stay with family and be picked for a SR Dev side. That still isn't ideal, but asking them to move away from family and get paid fuckall pushes more players overseas

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              @duluth said in Exodus:

              40% of pro contracts are in the South Island. 20% are in Dunedin. They do not produce that many pro players. So the system forces a movement of talent from north to south

              that's dropped with Moana Pacifica - now only 33%.

              Edit: 33% SI, 17% Dunedin

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @duluth said in Exodus:

                40% of pro contracts are in the South Island. 20% are in Dunedin. They do not produce that many pro players. So the system forces a movement of talent from north to south

                that's dropped with Moana Pacifica - now only 33%.

                Edit: 33% SI, 17% Dunedin

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                @nzzp

                Not quite, because it's mostly for PI qualified players

                I've always been in favour of a real 6th SR side based in the NI. Moana Pasfika isn't that

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @nzzp

                  Not quite, because it's mostly for PI qualified players

                  I've always been in favour of a real 6th SR side based in the NI. Moana Pasfika isn't that

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                  @duluth said in Exodus:

                  @nzzp

                  Not quite, because it's mostly for PI qualified players

                  I've always been in favour of a real 6th SR side based in the NI. Moana Pasfika isn't that

                  Mostly PI qualified NZers, plus a few extra plain old NZers not PI and other PI qualified Ozzies. It is mostly a kiwi team, and (like Samoa and Tonga national teams) it will stay that way.

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                    #1475

                    https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1507371770994700288

                    Grandson of Sid Going?

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1507371770994700288

                      Grandson of Sid Going?

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                      @stargazer said in Exodus:

                      https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1507371770994700288

                      Grandson of Sid Going?

                      Being a Going he'll fit right in Utah.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @stargazer said in Exodus:

                        https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1507371770994700288

                        Grandson of Sid Going?

                        Being a Going he'll fit right in Utah.

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                        #1477

                        @booboo Especially with that first name!

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1507371770994700288

                          Grandson of Sid Going?

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                          @stargazer not sure if he is grandson, but def of his lineage, @Steven-Harris may know.

                          He played for the Northland dev side last year

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @stargazer not sure if he is grandson, but def of his lineage, @Steven-Harris may know.

                            He played for the Northland dev side last year

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                            @taniwharugby yes this is correct Zion informed Northland a couple of weeks ago that he had picked up a contract In the MLR .really wrapt for the young man it will be great for his own personal development.

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                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster-set-to-sign-former-all-blacks-centre-charlie-ngatai/

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                              • TimT Tim

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster-set-to-sign-former-all-blacks-centre-charlie-ngatai/

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                                @tim said in Exodus:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leinster-set-to-sign-former-all-blacks-centre-charlie-ngatai/

                                Aha. Charlie Ngatai.

                                Got a couple of positive mentions on here and a few posters, probably Cantabs, got upset he was beimg bigged up too much.

                                Shame he went OS. Could have been useful.

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                                  jauzy019
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                                  #1482

                                  Liam Coltman will join french club Lyon OU in july.

                                  https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/top-14/lyon-le-neo-zelandais-liam-coltman-en-approche_AN-202203310372.html

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                                  • J jauzy019

                                    Liam Coltman will join french club Lyon OU in july.

                                    https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/top-14/lyon-le-neo-zelandais-liam-coltman-en-approche_AN-202203310372.html

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                                    @jauzy019 said in Exodus:

                                    Liam Coltman will join french club Lyon OU in july.

                                    https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/top-14/lyon-le-neo-zelandais-liam-coltman-en-approche_AN-202203310372.html

                                    Sad because he adds to our depth, but pleased he can cash in.

                                    BTW weren't you banned @jauzy19 for being the bearer of bad tidings?

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                                      jauzy019
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                                      #1484

                                      Haha in fact i lost my previous account, i can't remember the password. :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @jauzy019 said in Exodus:

                                        Liam Coltman will join french club Lyon OU in july.

                                        https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/rugby/top-14/lyon-le-neo-zelandais-liam-coltman-en-approche_AN-202203310372.html

                                        Sad because he adds to our depth, but pleased he can cash in.

                                        BTW weren't you banned @jauzy19 for being the bearer of bad tidings?

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                                        Bones
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                                        @booboo it's funny how now it's just become the norm and part of the rugby landscape, where a decade or so ago there was communal horror when you saw jauzy had posted.

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